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Non-proportional fun, and grievers

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Sarakin:
Oh cut the crap  ::)
There are grievers everywhere, but in other games, they are not allowed so much to do and harm like here.

@Kane - find a group, playing solo is really frustrating

Catoptromancy:
A new player with lack of knowledge may have these problems. Just yesterday I started a new char and by myself with no help in a single morning I got a tent, caravan, armorer profession 2 and hunting supplies. People need to learn some basic things before they get mad at the game or other players. In my new char journey I was constantly avoiding anyone that was holding a gun in town or trying to get close to me, carefully watching out as I was bartering for basic objects holding not enough hides for a tent. I danced with one guy. I step away, he would try to steal, I step away again...for like 3 minutes. He apparently saw my growing inventory.
Buying the caravan was the funnest part. I entered the town amid someone blowing up, as I was trying to talk to the caravan seller, someone kept trying to get close to me so I left. Came back a minute later and someone used a rocket launcher on my cow. Caught another cow, and waited for the town to be empty before I tried to buy again. Point is avoiding theft and death early in the game is very possible.

Game is not hard even without a tent or help. It just takes some knowledge and patience.

Another thing I may add, if someone dies that lost NCR/other town protection or dies from a guard due to attacking someone, they should respawn in say San Fran. Innocent/oblivious bystander should not get same penalty as constant bursters.

Swinglinered:

--- Quote from: Kane on August 04, 2011, 11:17:40 PM ---
Well im throwing in the towel on this game
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spent the past 2 hours gather all sorts and making stuff to sell to vendors so i could try and buy some decent weapon and ammo only to have some one unload in face when im about to buy a gun. 
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and what do i get a 10 min debuff and sent a million miles away with nothing to defend myself
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 i repeatedly had every thing i done ruined by some random prat the last few days and had to start from scratch again


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Brought tears to my eyes

Tears Of Joy!

Senrain:
One thing I have learned about this game is that if you're paranoid, then you'll be very successful at this game. Everybody is out to get you, everyone wants your stuff, EVERYONE wants to ruin your day. Always go through the back door, always travel with friends, NEVER let anyone stand less than 1 hex away from you. Store every item you see, bring only what you need, learn who to trust and who to shoot.

Josh:

--- Quote from: Gaizk on August 04, 2011, 08:50:34 PM ---I'm talking about how the game is designed for grievers. As surf said, theres a big deal of people preying on weaker people just for the Lulz, for a few damn laughs, people camping obviously low level squares (around protected towns, molerats, etc) with powerbuilds on the intent of murdering low level ALTs (lets keep newbs out of this for a while)

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Oh Shit! Someone has pinpointed the (imho) #1 flaw of this game. There is a great game out there for those who enjoyed Fallout 1 and 2, but its unlikely that most will experience it. This is probably because of the immature shits who have somehow found this game and realized its potential as a grieving ground. If you ask if they have ever played FO1 or 2 they will most likely respond with "no buts i playd 3 and nv" or "never heard of it". The atmosphere they create prevents low levels from partaking in the quests and higher levels have nothing of importance to be gained carrying briefcases and such.

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