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Reward from devs to long time playing factions

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Wichura:
Senocular, you are cruel bastard. You tell these guys that are people, many people, that don't give a single crap about TC feature and whole "gang-bang improving Fallout universe" story. It's like telling kids Santa Claus doesn't exist. Damn you.

I never participated any Tree Control fight, never wanted to do it. But I can say I've done a lot for players, especially newcomers, which I helped at their beginning instead of pwning them for teh lulz. Graffiti on NCR's walls isn't necessary to me to feel satisfied, as I don't like NCR at all.

Crazy:

--- Quote from: Senocular on July 31, 2011, 01:45:18 AM ---Those graffitis, hall of fame or any other shit you suggested. For who do you want to make them? For other players? No, because they don't give a shit. I've heard about VSB, they pked me few times in Modoc back in the day - every other average player won't say any more. You didn't contribute anything but random pvp grindfest. No hard feelings about it but it's not something you get graffiti for. If you make some dumb graffiti for one gang why not for the other? Wiki page is enough of a reward for a gang.

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For you, VSB mean "random gang of pVP-Tc apes who PKes me". For me, it is the gang with which I have fought many years in many battle and several diffrent alliance, for Rogues it mean one of their major ennemy against who they fought in many cities.

Fact that one gang X manged to keep town Y during long time and make it live is part of the history in this game, but nothing show it. It would be good if it was the case. Cause the fights, alliances, diplomacy, tries to make a town "safe", are the history of this game, and not a "choosen one who pown enclave".

Eternauta:
Please allow me to ask again - does the server not jump back to the year 2238 when wiped?

If so, how can actions made by players in past seasons add to the history of the game in the current season? If the server does go back to 2238 with each wipe then it works in a way similar to the myth of the "eternal return" which, according to Mircea Eliade, ancient cultures with strong religious thoughts had.

Eternal return:

With the celebration of the New Year, the people "travel" to the primal, mythical moment in which the gods created the world. The world is then "created again", from scratch. After the New Year rituals, "normal", mundane time starts running again, until the end of the year.

FOnline server:

The wipe cleans the game world completely and makes the server jump back to the original year (2238). All actions done by players are erased, and everyone has to start again.With every new wipe, history has to be written again, so making graffiti, monuments, etc., about past actions make no sense:


--- Quote from: Kelin on July 27, 2011, 11:34:33 AM ---So gang A and B constantly fighting in one town for a long period of time will have to watch at graffiti of gang C, which doesn't play anymore...

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So in order to implement content related to the "scars" left on the world by players, a cooperation between players and developers (like Kilgore said) would be needed to discuss about what exactly should be implemented. And this would have to be done almost constantly and new content should be erased with each wipe.

tl;dr: add stuff not because of how long certain gangs have been around, but because of their actions during the current season, erase it all with each wipe. Would be cool, would be interesting, but would require a lot of work and a tight and reliable devs-players cooperation (maybe impossible with the current playerbase), would bring rage, trolling, flames.

Michaelh139:

--- Quote from: Eternauta on July 31, 2011, 03:58:54 AM ---Please allow me to ask again - does the server not jump back to the year 2238 when wiped?

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Yes, It does.

Wichura:

--- Quote from: Crazy on July 31, 2011, 02:56:53 AM ---For you, VSB mean "random gang of pVP-Tc apes who PKes me". For me, it is the gang with which I have fought many years in many battle and several diffrent alliance, for Rogues it mean one of their major ennemy against who they fought in many cities.
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Make a poll then, to show who are PvP-apes that would sell their mother to win Tree Control battle, and who are NCR woodsmans, that don't give a shit about whole monkey business. Even if it don't change anything, will be interesting to see the results :>

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