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Fizzle:
I only think that certain weapons would have this like maybe certain variants of the assualt rifle, maybe fn fal? If all machine guns would happen to have that ability what would be the purpose of having a fully automatic weapon then?

spears:
It makes the current burst mode redundant in anything other than pve or one hex. It also means that every burst weapon may need rebalancing.
Iirc bursting doesnt reduce your accuracy it just reduces the range.
Id rather just use the 3round theme to differentiate one weapon from another, the xle from the ar for instance.

jonny rust:

--- Quote from: Senocular on July 18, 2011, 03:55:45 AM ---On longer distances you hit only 2-3 rounds anyway. So you won't get any more damage than now. About the ammo consumption - you need 10 bullets to hit with 3, if you shoot three forget about hitting anything. Well skilled character will hit more bullets even with 12 bullets burst.

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But a shorter burst will increase accuracy over long distance so your ratio/logic really don't apply anyway. Statistically speaking if 3 out of 12 bullets in a burst hit their mark, it will be the first 3... So why keep firing?


--- Quote from: Fizzle on July 18, 2011, 04:03:34 AM ---I only think that certain weapons would have this like maybe certain variants of the assualt rifle, maybe fn fal? If all machine guns would happen to have that ability what would be the purpose of having a fully automatic weapon then?

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sure, makes sense


--- Quote from: spears on July 18, 2011, 04:07:12 AM ---It makes the current burst mode redundant in anything other than pve or one hex. It also means that every burst weapon may need rebalancing.
Iirc bursting doesnt reduce your accuracy it just reduces the range.
Id rather just use the 3round theme to differentiate one weapon from another, the xle from the ar for instance.

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bursters already try to get as close as possible to maximize there damage and hit ratio. Further more if the 'cover' suggestion gets implemented it would more than validate this imo. Also I fail to see how this would make the burster build less relevant as it only makes him more adaptable. Remember the idea here is create a viable long range attack for bursters in the scenario that they should need it.

IRL continuos bursting destabilizes the person firing the gun as he has to deal with the last rounds recoil while aiming the next, every shooter simulates lowered accuracy with a widening crosshair the longer you burst. So yes it effects accuracy versus range. A 3 round burst would still not have as much accuracy over as much range as a single shot but it would be way more accurate than 12 round burst.

Surf:
Number of bullets shot in bursts is tied to the "burst" option in the engine - said option being one of the maximum 5 you can give a  weapon/object. Single Shot and Reload take away 2 slots aswell, so you are left with 2 additional slots which may even be used for better things in the future. I don't see how one, maybe 2 more options to burst can balled "controlled", unless you want some engine hackery.

jonny rust:

--- Quote from: Surf on July 18, 2011, 03:44:38 PM ---Number of bullets shot in bursts is tied to the "burst" option in the engine - said option being one of the maximum 5 you can give a  weapon/object. Single Shot and Reload take away 2 slots aswell, so you are left with 2 additional slots which may even be used for better things in the future. I don't see how one, maybe 2 more options to burst can balled "controlled", unless you want some engine hackery.

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I'm not sure I understand. So a weapon is limited to 5 ways in which you can use it, for most small guns these include;
reload
single shot
single aimed shot
burst

so there is only 1 slot left, but in order to create a "controlled burst" option to fill that slot you would need to hack the engine in order tie a different number of rounds to the new burst option?
and there are possibly better things that may fill that last slot in the future, such as?

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