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Avenger minigun

12 (12.8%)

Rocket launcher

7 (7.4%)

Plasma rifle/Laser rifle

14 (14.9%)

Plasma pistol/Laser pistol

2 (2.1%)

LSW

28 (29.8%)

223 pistol

7 (7.4%)

14mm pistol

2 (2.1%)

Assault rifle

5 (5.3%)

Timed Explosives (anyone even use these outside of towns?)

3 (3.2%)

Grenades/throwing weapons

3 (3.2%)

Sniper rifle

11 (11.7%)

Total Members Voted: 94

[Solar]

What you never get about this LSW vs Avenger is pure DPS is not the only thing to count. And that's why LSW is better.

Nope, if peoplpe say its easier to farm a LSW and its ammo then fair enough - Avengers & LSW needed changing in those regards even before the last wipe. Post wipe it will be a comparison of Minigun vs LSW and the availability of the two will be comparable.

However that is not what people say, they say it does more damage, or its better for crits, etc etc - which is untrue.

[Fridge_Man]

Sniper Rifle. Unmatched range, and with a critical build that weapon is 95% deadly.

Still my favourite weapon is the Gatling Laser. It does not only hit the blues and greens to pieces,
it also shows you are a rich man who probably has tons of MFC's.

[Rascal]

i made 1 hexburst into a guy in ba with avenger (ap ammo, 2brd) - 122dmg ROTFLMAO xD
after 2 minutes did the same (the same guy the same char) with LSW - 223dmg xD

2 days ago fighting in new reno 2 burst in middle range into a guy in ba: 30 / 43 dmg rotflmao xD

almost a watergun

[Swinglinered]

Plasma grenades + Jet + BRoF +2 AB + 10 AG + 330 Sneak

In RT just wait half a second for the fifth shot.

Otherwise its Rocket Mercenaries or just a Hunting Rifle on a stealthy crit sniper.

The Hunting Rifle sniper has nothing to lose.

Also- SMG to the back, point blank. Thank you for mining for me.

[Solar]

i made 1 hexburst into a guy in ba with avenger (ap ammo, 2brd) - 122dmg ROTFLMAO xD
after 2 minutes did the same (the same guy the same char) with LSW - 223dmg xD

2 days ago fighting in new reno 2 burst in middle range into a guy in ba: 30 / 43 dmg rotflmao xD

almost a watergun

Note, this is the kind of nonsense that I am correcting.

Feel free to search my posts quoting 20/40/60+ shots with both weapons in a controlled enviroment which correlated exactly to the theory which shows the Avenger does much better average damage too.

[Crovax]

i don't know it seems to me that, when u go any amount of range away from a player LSW outpreforms avenger most times.

[Solar]

A good example of why controlled testing beats random musings

[Crovax]

my random musings come from almost 2 years of ingame pvp experience 

[Zozio]

This poll has no sense, it depends on the situation.

To PK in one shot a poor bluesuit, a good' ol pancor is wonderful....

To kill a poor PVP Chosen Soldier, drugged, with BA it's clearly not the ideal weapon...

[Solar]

And they are wrong, as demonstrated in a controlled test.

[Michaelh139]

And they are wrong, as demonstrated in a controlled test.

What if players did their own controlled test?  And it proved LSW is better than Avenger in most cases?  What would you say then?

[Solar]

Try again, because you're wrong.

Though it would be understandable, its a huge amount of work to do a proper test without admin powers.

[Perteks]

Try again, because you're wrong.

Though it would be understandable, its a huge amount of work to do a proper test without admin powers.

And huge time to see on TC and other form of pvp LSW win sometimes theory is other than reality Solar

[Solar]

Its not theory. I've sat and shot these guns at someone cheated to lose no health or armour det and with known stats for 20 times each and averaged it.

I tested lsw vs avenger for multiple builds and posted the log of the results.

This is a controlled test. It agrees with the theory (which would only be wrong because of a bug anyway)

Simply, the avenger is better damage.

[Perteks]

Only in pointblack and if half of rounds will hit (whats is most times impossible ) In every other aspect lsw win