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manero:
It will not help you. Bypass, bypass, bypass.. i dont trust tesla and i will not trust enclave armor ;)
LagMaster:
you know something? fuck the combat, why we need to fight? can't we just make bases so we can live with ech others peacefully? can't we build more tents with 1 char so we can have friends in our tents and build a small city of tents, or better, have the option to add someone to the tent so he can see him(like adding a billboard where you can add to friend/enemy list to your tent, or in the pip-boy add friends or foes)
but no, you must come andcomplain with your power builds that do not do as much damage as they whant to("i whant spears to kill in 2-3 hits") asnd so do on, with the zerlings and rushes and PK traps and so do on
well, my point is anyway that non combat builds are imba too, melle/HtH are imba too, everything is imba, but why you complain when you whant to do something?
now i will try to create when i will have some spare time some "balance" features in the weapon sistem, if devs wanna look at it and modify/implement it i ask them, let's make this game more plesant
Johnnybravo:
--- Quote ---Rockets don't knock you out,
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Ofcourse they can, but we're not seeing finesse rocket builds.. However point is that splash and direct damage knocks people down without any help from perks ( and it even moves people ). This is by the far the best weapon in the game (for if it was not, who would put it to his or her mercs for use?)
--- Quote ---and finally, rockets take 10 AP just for one shot and to reload
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To be precise you get 6AP per shot with a BROF, wearing 2 of those you can easily fire two rockets in a "turn". Having just one ammo is the only in-combat disadvantage of the weapon (with ofcourse splash damage hurting you when used point blank, but it's long range weapon). I think the weapon is more offset by logistical disadvantage as expensive ammo ( you get "tube" everywhere, but better rockets are valuable )
--- Quote ---whereas snipers it's only 8-9 AP to aim to the eyes and reloading is not required till 6 (or 12 if it's EW)
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Sniper rifle has 1 AP penalty compared to other rifles (was like that even in original Fallout), so you need 7AP to aim for eyes with BROF, making it quite demanding. However with range like that it's reasonable for it's users.
Rocket launchers get screwed only at battlefields with long range and choking points, such as Klamath. However this is true for EW as well, because they cannot shoot other snipers even when range difference is that small.
--- Quote ---It will not help you. Bypass, bypass, bypass
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If we see any less bypasses, people might just quit some builds for good. Announced 5% resist nerfs will not make for any steady damage for laser weaponry, and tesla will own plasma (though since that's completly specific to tesla it could've be quite reasonable). If you don't like your armor bypassed, then it'd make sense if it was not that much to bypass. Considering you can get even up 50% for normal resistance (and much more for other damage types), basic hits tend now to do very low damage.
This is more of balancing stats on critters and guns and keeping game consistent with original Fallout. I guess it'd be much easier to completly reitemize it and make bypass something special. Ofcourse it'd be quite different game...
Swinglinered:
I have a rocket crit character I'm going to experiment with, but the sneak requirement to make it work relegates it to an expensive (in terms of leveling time) concept test.
With more and better crits, ghost, 2 levels of Action Boy...
Still will only crit 1/3 or so of the time.
So it is a bluesuit build with 2 launchers and limited ammo- really just there to harass.
Better to make a sneak merc leader and have rocket/sniper/minigun mercs that take orders from a hidden leader.
Daro:
--- Quote from: Michaelh139 on June 09, 2011, 12:45:18 PM ---Rockets don't knock you out, (They CAN but only 1% of the time, I have only seen it happen once in my lifetime)
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Ofc it does. I'm pretty sure, you don't have BG with Better Critical. With that perk it happens quite often.
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