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Adding "new" weapons vs improving old to insane amounts

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vedaras:

--- Quote from: Hector C on May 19, 2011, 06:08:52 AM ---I started a new char with 10 luck, and better crits and still never score 100 hp hits against critters. is there something else i'm missing?  Also, I def dont crit everytime, but I only have 1 mc, but even when i do crit it's seldom a knockout so unless op is exaggerating does someone know something else i don't?  (frustrating crit hit table is not public.)

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all critters have resistance to various damage types which is not that bad actually so its probably because of this reason. The chance of knockout/knockdown highly depends on enemies endurance and stonewall perk.

Hector C:

--- Quote from: DocAN. on May 19, 2011, 09:29:17 AM ---1. Man, come to hinkley to test your build. Make like 1k shots and then you can say something.
2. What critters are you hunting, not many have more then 100hp.
3. Change weapon, take plasma rifle you will see 200+ crits.
4. Crit table isnt public and it shouldnt be.


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1.  I have def made more than 1k shots, maybe 1 in 40 does 100 damage.
2.  molerats, pigrats, mantis, whatevers in sw
3. Thats not the point of this thread.
4.  Will you please explain why you feel this way. Please.  I have been asking for a reason for this for a week, and no one can give me a straight answer.

Ulrek:
The laser pistols are fine i think, they're not that OP by themselves.

It's the crit damage, since armor does not stop the damage from the crits, against a suit of metal armor and without crits the laser pistol probably won't do much more then a 10mm pistol, with crits that damage is x4 and you suddenly are hit for 100 damage, since you might as well have been bursted by some kind of laser SMG.

I almost lost while wearing Mk2 metal armor to a sneaker in a bluesuit with a plasma pistol, who did -head- shots for 120-150 damage each hit, if he wasn't so squishy i wouldn't have been able to even kill him before he killed me.

Comparing the price of a mauser vs a laser pistol i don't have a problem with the damage in non-crit shots, but when you might as well be in a bluesuit when fighting the guy with the laser pistol while he's in the same armor as you, it's a little unfair.

As for the phazer, that wasn't a serious weapon, and more of a joke, if you want to add a weapon in to the game, why not a sawed off laser rifle that you can wield in one hand?

-Ulrek-

Hector C:

--- Quote from: Ulrek on May 20, 2011, 05:28:00 AM --- if you want to add a weapon in to the game, why not a sawed off laser rifle that you can wield in one hand?

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please god yes.  :D

Y0ssarian:
Let's hope Bethesda doesn't make that a DLC exclusive item.

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