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Adding "new" weapons vs improving old to insane amounts

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Reiniat:

--- Quote from: vedaras on May 15, 2011, 10:37:13 PM ---dude you have 6 luck and you want good criticals when many of stuff depends on rolls... I see it as your build drawback not laser pistols.

Reiniat: as you see in my suggestion the energy weapons damage would stay the same, it would be just made by different weapons! And i see here 2 advantages: more variety of weapons, and weapons would be closer as in original fallouts.

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laser pistol should remain cheap since its only useful against blusesuits, if there is some way of make it AP, with ammmo, a better perk, or anything, it WILL become hard to craft.
also:

Michael:  i suggest my own pk built, you cant take those perks in a properly EW built, your built is wrong for be a pk.
2toughness, 1better criticals, 1Lifegiver, 1Action boy, 1BRoF. AB is for gain 2special points for use in CH or whatever you want
uses 6Luck amd 8AG, 8end. yes it is matematically better since at lvl 18 youll be able to make double eyeshot wich means a 66+66% to critical= a critical every turn, you end with 190hp.
it make people suck balls and get angry, and newbs cry like babys... also if you find a SG or BG burster you will kill him with the plasma pistol, without problems, no matter his armor, exept MAMKII or Tesla.
if you want a desert fighter i suggest to exchange one Tougness for Cautious Nature wich will make you spawn far in the encounters and give you a little bonus to aiming all the standar encounter-pk built use this perk (i dont use it because i think is unfair).

Bulldog:
I like the main idea of the topic-starter but he should be aware of many other factors concerning weapons, such as range, ammo, damage type and DR. I wouldn't mind having some extra guns to choose from though.

abegade:
Sems that the problem isnt the gun itself, but the uber crit chanche that wouldn't allow to retaliate even with one shot.
Remember that when a man with a gun meets a man with a rifle, the one with a gun is a dead man. Seems that Fo forgot about this basic rule :p

Akiko:
As i remember each weapon have same chance for insta kill when shoting into eyes 1-5%  ::)

Final damage is based on av dmg multiplicated x 4 ( when targeting eyes)

in F2 there was such furmula considering instadeath (possible only with perk better crits):


i think in general in 2238 it is similar...

For sure "LOSE NEXT TURN" had been changed ( i only see it when shoting to creatures not players).

vedaras:

--- Quote from: abegade on May 17, 2011, 10:41:33 AM ---Sems that the problem isnt the gun itself, but the uber crit chanche that wouldn't allow to retaliate even with one shot.
Remember that when a man with a gun meets a man with a rifle, the one with a gun is a dead man. Seems that Fo forgot about this basic rule :p

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when damage was boosted on laser pistol from 10-22 to 20-35 every critical hit results in massive fuckin lot of damage and the weapon is still cheaper than cheap. So once again i come to same conslusion, make it expensive or make it as it was before while adding alternatives like suggested which would match the current powered weapons strength, but have price equal to weapons strength.

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