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[Reconite]

I will never play out of hardcore mode.

That's what I thought as soon as I saw it, and I'll do just that.

[Roachor]

I like a challenge and ammo weight is closer to the original than carrying an entire armoury's worth of shit with you. Anything to balance out the infantilization of everything for console gamers, fallout 3 posed no real challenges.

[TommyTheGun]

Wasn't shooting everyone's heads off challanging?

I think that they should also modify combat system in "hardcore" mode, since it was way to easy to kill stuff and required no tactics at all. The game in which you have to drink water and cannot carry unlimited amount of ammo, but still can kill stuff with shitty gun without any problem still isn't what I would call "playable".

[Roachor]

I'm guessing you either didn't play it on hard or never touched the expansions. Also if you ever played f2 you become pretty godlike 1 hit killing everything.

[TommyTheGun]

Expansions are totally different thing. Also - you have to pay additional money for those. I don't really want to lie to you - I don't remember what difficulty level i played on, but I'm guessing that I would just have to handle my pad better. There was not much of a tactics in every-few-seconds-VATS using or just running like crazy and shooting some heads off. Also - the amount of stimpaks and other kinky stuff in my backpack would suggest, that even hard (if it wasnt hard) lvl wouldnt be that scary. All of that when I played F3 first time (and last).

And yeah - I wont tell you how was it precisely when i played F2 for the first time, but from what i remember, killing Metzger was a challange for the first time. Its obvious thats most of people here can own F2 with their eyes closed, but since we all finished that game dozen^ times, its not really a good point

[Roachor]

They screwed it up with the expansions. Because the main game was too easy they made enemies ignore your armour class and have so much health it takes 5 rockets to dent a guys hp. Unarmed is the easiest because you can just chain stun everything.

[zubrowka]

fonline > fallout 3

[Alvarez]

fonline > fallout 3

It's obvious.

But can you say it about New Vegas? I'm really intrigued now.

[Roachor]

I wouldn't go that far, fallout 3 had a  on of problems but nowhere near as much as fonline. To be honest I'd be surprised if this ever amounted to anything based on the retarded ideas that have been implemented so far.

[Reconite]

I wouldn't go that far, fallout 3 had a  on of problems but nowhere near as much as fonline. To be honest I'd be surprised if this ever amounted to anything based on the retarded ideas that have been implemented so far.

...FOnline is better than Fallout 3 by far. The finished product will be even better. It's not even a contest.

[Roachor]

...FOnline is better than Fallout 3 by far. The finished product will be even better. It's not even a contest.

Fonline is so far just a frankenstein of old games and bad ideas. I don't think the devs will remake all the game systems which is necessary if they want this to ever be more than a semi broken fan mod. Yes fallout 3 was a huge disappointment on many levels but at least it had new content and fun gameplay. Stripping fallout 2 of almost everything and then letting idiots run around in the mess isn't much of an accomplishment.

[Badger]

Fonline is so far just a frankenstein of old games and bad ideas. I don't think the devs will remake all the game systems which is necessary if they want this to ever be more than a semi broken fan mod. Yes fallout 3 was a huge disappointment on many levels but at least it had new content and fun gameplay. Stripping fallout 2 of almost everything and then letting idiots run around in the mess isn't much of an accomplishment.

I will admit I wasn't expecting the devs to take the game in the direction it's gone, but it's their game. They're don't have to suit anyone's tastes but their own. A lot of good will come out of releasing the FOnline engine, though. I'd love to see a Fallout 2 coop mod. Hell, if the 2238 devs let other people use the English dialogue I can't see it being a project that'll take years. It may not be identical to the original, but playing a Fallout cooperatively has always been a dream of mine.

Edit: Does anyone know when the engine is getting released? I wonder if there's been any news about that.

[Lexx]

Fallout 2 coop will never happen. Needs too much changes + all scripts and everything else has to be rewritten. Not really worth the amount of work.

As soon as the server files are open for public, we will see how many MMOs will appear which are better than 2238.

Btw. if someone doesn't like 2238... nobody is forced to play. You think it sucks? Fine, you don't have to play it. You think it has no future? Fine, you don't have to waste more time, just leave it. Dunno what's so hard about it.

I will admit I wasn't expecting the devs to take the game in the direction it's gone, but it's their game.

What was it before? You should know it as well. The original idea was "faction mod" and has become something bigger. Still it features what it was meaned for: Factions.

I wouldn't go that far, fallout 3 had a  on of problems but nowhere near as much as fonline.

You are right. Guess it's because we forgot our millions of dollars and 100 man strong and professional dev team in the kitchen. Oh well.

[Roachor]

I didn't start the f3 comparison. I just think that just because you guys know how to make a game doesn't necessarily mean any of you know anything about what makes a game good and the decisions i've seen you guys make so far reinforce this. The reason I play is because it has potential, I'm just not optimistic. Also my laptop can't run anything else other than diablo 2 and dota.

[Lexx]

You write as if we introduced big fat changes on the assembly line in the last time. Which is not true. If you are not optimistic 'n shit, why do you post here then all day long? Except demotivating, you are doing nothing that helps.