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New Vegas: shit or not shit?
Surf:
They still don't make them a "Fallout" game.
Anyway, this topic is not about FO3.
corosive:
--- Quote from: Surf Solar on August 24, 2010, 10:02:04 pm ---The old GECK will most probably being able to load the FO:NV files, so no worries.
I personally won't use mods. I want to play the game the way the developers want, not some random fat guy creating mods in his cellar.
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That's funny, that is pretty much how I expected the "Adult content" modders to be like. Some of those models they made for F3 are so realistic they eighter watched a lot of porn or have a nude model beside them... If you don't know which mods I'm talking about check out the top 100 mods at http://www.fallout3nexus.com THE most popular file is some nude mod. Talk about "preference" some people just need to have naked chicks in their games...
Lol btw I downloaded one of those mods :P got it with the Beauty pack to fix up the npc's faces/ eyes/ clunky textures/ more hair, etc... Turns out that without a "nude" mod you can't actually get the better clothing/ armour textures...Oh well it makes F3 look VERY PRETTY, it even adds DIRT to most Npc's faces. To be honest without the "Beauty" mods the game looks really ugly... On the down side however, it's really annoying to take an npc's armour then leave her dead and naked in the wasteland but on the bright side it's realistic... Underwear is simply too much of a hasle to wear in the wastes I guess lol when are you going to get a chance to do laundry? In the irradiated river? Oh thats right! You gotta "purify" the water before you can clean with it! Geez. ANyhow lol,
I know its pathetic but I've tried the game with and without the random mods and you need them to get that "Playable Wasteland Feel" If they made that retexture mod that didnt require the nude mod first then I wouldnt have gotten the nude mod. It's pretty lame imo when some chars just walk around naked or are found dead and naked in the wastes... You stumble upon it and it looks like someone just got raped and murdered (or vice versa) and if their all gibbed and missing their arms, legs, and head... You got yourself a torso with boobs to play with! "Easily amused eh?" Of course!
BACK ON TOPIC.
NV will have nude mods :( Bet ya 50, 000 caps!
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Ausir/My_Fallout:_New_Vegas_preview_-_part_2 More NV info...
Lexx:
--- Quote from: corosive on August 24, 2010, 09:55:15 pm ---omg lol i was right! their trying to mix NV with Van Buren...
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Old news is old. Very old. That's known since long time.
--- Quote ---THE most popular file is some nude mod.
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This says all about the game's players.
New GECK will be released with the game.
corosive:
That's what happens when you re-release a series to a different generation of gamers. I was like 10-12 or so when I got into Fallout 1 and 2 so by the time F3 came out I was expecting something serious. New gamers have the attention span of an american twelve year old with ADHD, so it's pretty obvious nude mods would come out. The new gamer needs to have certain things in it to grab its complete attention (Nudity, Gore, Immaturity, Simplicity, etc) Fallout 3 isn't a really "serious" or "respectable" game, it's not as "real" as Fallout 1 was. F1 was about survival with a bit of humour to balance out its darkness... F2 brough too much humour and altered the series, now we have F3 and FNV. Bright, colourful, and hilarious worlds that just happened to have been hit by nuclear holocaust.
Van Buren had the potential to be similar to F1 but sadly failed, I wasn't expecting them to recycle it but I'm just really glad they are. Let's hope they recycle the "serious" parts rather then the jokes.
But! To have a nude mod to a fallout game? Freakin' insulting! It's just a sad, sad day when a company tries to make a "fallout" game that looks better with freakin mods. I remember seeing the Van Buren tech demo (It's still available to download...) the female char was topless... I was shocked... for the longest time I thought Van Buren was being made by a bunch of immature drunk kids...and then it gets cancelled... Biggest mistake dev's can do with their games is to add nudity, it takes away from the seriousness of the game. The only exception I have seen so far in games is "The Saboteur" (you can turn the boobs off tho but those french topless stage singers are pretty entertaining) and a graphics mod for System Shock 2 I think its called Rebirth (the mother creature or witch, whatever, was topless but still scary as hell!)
Oh well, can't wait to kill 2200 npcs in Vegas!
http://nma-fallout.com/ Posted 2 new articles on NV factions and some more details on their "definitive ending"
Aiux:
Okay, I only read about four maybe 6 pages of this thread before coming down with the case of the giggles. Everyone here fails to realize there would be on continuation of the fallout series without fallout 3. It brought fallout into the 21st century it allowed a new age of fans to embrace the fallout universe. It made sure the fallout name wasn't scraped and forgotten. Have you forgotten that fallout 1/2 came out over 10 years ago? This game from the 90's needed to be transformed into a PROFITABLE sequel. Meaning it wasn't aimed at the small international fan base but a larger(newer) audience. Van Buren although would have been a fanboys wet dream WOULD NOT HAVE EVER BEEN AS PROFITABLE AS FALLOUT THREE. It would have lead to the discontinuation to the fallout series. At least the spirit of the fallout games lives on. Oh and another thing most people born in the early and late 90's ever heard of the fallout series before fallout three came out. eh and "oh!" another thing I forgot. The person who said Fonline was better than F3 must have been snorting something, I mean damn xD.
Now for the gameplay.
For those completely playing out of V.A.T.S. and saying this game is all "just blowing off random heads". I have to say one/few thing to you..."Critical shot to eyes". nuff said. Now to the actual arguments.. when facing large amounts of enemy there is no way in hell you will be able to kill them all(except for the grim reaper perk but it's agreed that it needs to be removed/nerfed) without using the FPS perspective of the game. Hell I played most of the game in FPS(except for certain death claws and enclave shootouts >.>) Sure the combat became easy after you made your combat build and had fucking fawkes destroying everything that so much as bumped into you but then again you only get fawks late into storyline. If anything I haven't seen someone say anything about the combat when they raided the yao guai cave for that bobble head. This game was dynamic in the way it let you choose how you wanted to engage the enemy you could instally go into vats and pick them off from a far or run up to them and unload your clip into their faces. Maybe It's just me and 4+ million other people but I don't see anything wrong with the combat. Oh the majority of gamers today would never as so much as touch a turn based roleplaying/action game.
Dialogue & story
Here I can see your arguments because it was rather dull and lacking in the creative department. I give you this win.
Conclusion
In conclusion I have to say any arguments I've missed please kindly point out or debate with me. I didn't intend to ignite a flame war or anything just a healthy debate. Largely I've seen mass hate from this game because this game wasn't an isometric graphic game based off over hyped idealized demo. oh please pardon any grammar mistakes i wrote this late at night.
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