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New Vegas: shit or not shit?

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Alvarez:

--- Quote from: baaelSiljan on February 04, 2010, 08:29:23 pm ---
PS. i enjoyed playing FO3 and perhaps will enjoy New Vegas, but there was trick to do that - I removed string "Fallout" from logos and cover.

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Ditto. I liked Capital Wasteland too, a nice FPS spinoff.

Also, i'm relieved that they left Colorado alone. There's still hope for VanBuren.

Badger:
Yeah, the vanilla combat bugged the shit out of me. Taking down the Enclave with your hunting rifle was just plain silly.

Aricvomit:
wow, lemme put on my fire suit for the impending flame. anyways, i think the trailer looked great.
 i think the problem with people saying its not fallout its not fallout is realizing that theres an entire world of untapped and "DIFFERENT" potential, not everything in the world is going to be the same.
you gotta figure Fallout 1 an 2 both took place on the west coast so your going to have to realize some things may just be specific to that area. its like looking at the difference in architecture throughout the untied states. i lived in new orleans and illinois and its drastically different.
 what about the rest of the world? thats the thing, the world as a whole is only really touched upon breifly in the fallout games, the most we hear about the world in this situation is stuff about canada and china. i mean if you figure theres an entire world out there whats to say some places wont be different.
I guess people are just gonna have to wait and see but the hope is there, they are bringin it back to the west and in turn fixing alot of the issues people had with 3 about stuff like jet and crap that shouldnt really matter to anyone.
remember this simple fact, the only reason fallout has endured and grew to where it is now is because of interplays initial screw ups and not bringing out van buren.
what if, mind you just what if van buren sucked ass. if van buren had come out and bombed most people would have forsaken the fallout franchise and written off future games,
stagnation is the worst thing that can happen to a game, look at tomb raider, critically acclaimed for a few games and then pure crap for the rest.. thing is the game formula didnt change, we consumers did and we got tired of the same old thing. so FTW lets see some new ideas and content breathe life into an old franchise.

baaelSiljan:
I'm not talking that it will be bad game, I'talking that main point of Fallout is it idea, humor and atmosphere. Something what was lost in FO3 - not beacause of it first person, graphic or place, but because story, freedom and humor. Yes, this trailer isn't bad (if You really can say anything about this short movie) but where to hell is Fallout here? In Poland we speak "jedna jaskółka wiosny nie czyni" - "one swallow doesn't make a spring" - and only one in this trailer what has something connected to Fallout is NCR flag.

First time I played Fallout was some demo from games magazine, I didn't like this game, later I've seen when my friend was playing, so I bought it to try... after 2 months of vacation (every day of playing FO) and some time when I've heard about FO2 I was first in shop to buy it. And this was magic - i totally fall in love with this game, I then was about 17 year old. I waited for Fallout 3 for a long time, and when I saw Van Buren I tought it was some kind of joke. I really think that Van Burean is not even close to Fallout, but I hoped Troika will make good successor, and what I have seen in their tech demo was what I was waiting for. But way Bethesda choose (and dont tell me that Obsidian do something else, cause I'm sure Bethesda PR people and directors will influence in every single detail of this game and make it as much similar to FO3 as they can) is in my opion way of creating totally different game, only branded Fallout because of its value. Really it is not even close to RPG, and it is cutted to minimum because of "we consumers did and we got tired of the same old thing" and "we consumers really dont like to think, make arrows how we have to play" and "ooo here is too much text must i read it all" and "omg u n00b stfu i kill u" and "omg this needs more keys than game pad have!" and "omfg this is too hard" and "lets make some game who is famous and earn some $, than lets make some expansions from stuff we already have and earn some $, if we buy some well known brand with big enough world we dont have to think about it, it will sell itself, everybody will buy it because of name", and what is most painfull for me personally "what to hell is monthy python, and why do I have to read
any books (A Canticle for Leibowitz for example) to understand what is Cafe of the Broken Dreams or Maltese Falcon?"

You know, greatest thing in whole Fallout is for me that it takes a lot of good things from good and classic masterpieces, this make it very unique. also it is way old games was made, before marketing guys get it in their dirty hands and low profile thinking.

oh shit, i have a flameboy mood today :) no offence


BTW. i have same feeling about FO3 when there was a news that Bethesda will made it.. and i wasn't wrong.

Roachor:
Although to be honest I think we remember fallout through rose tinted goggles. There wasn't really that much dialogue, the combat system is half done and pretty simplistic and shit is pretty ugly.

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