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Crazy:

--- Quote from: Fridge_Man on May 03, 2011, 10:13:49 pm ---The big problem is that we dont know yet what to expect next season ;)
After wipe new perks could appear, maybe some changings in professions too.
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It is known that new perks and traits will appear, some traits and most of perks will be reworked, the number of perks available as well. We don't even know what will be the level cap. But we already know that there will be only 2 levels of professions (the third will be replaced by blueprints and special workbenches).
So yeah, planning a build for next session is totally impossible right now.


About the build itself: 7ST is far too much for a SG, it's 5, 4 if you plan to use only smg-like weapons. Educated is a waste of perk. And you should try to have an even number in agility. Fast shot is useless trait, like it won't affect your burst. You could pick up small frame and gain an extra special.
And if you want a real PvPer, seriously... It won't have charisma and won't be able to craft anything... Better to create a crafter alt and main PvP char.

greko:

--- Quote from: Floodnik on May 03, 2011, 10:13:35 pm ---I don't think there's any sense to plan builds for the next session, since the character building will be changed drastically.

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I can't believe there is no sense to it, but I fully recognize it will change. That being said, having the best build possible for my goals prior to the change-log being released means I've got a better baseline to adapt for the altered rule set.


--- Quote from: Fridge_Man on May 03, 2011, 10:13:49 pm ---...if you want too boost survivability
i would suggest aswell 6 Luck. With 6 Luck you can take toughness perk.

Also 5 STR would be ok to use any small gun and, and you can boost STR
with a buffout to get Armorer3 prof.

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Great point, and I didn't even know that drugs could help satisfy the profession requirement.


--- Quote from: Crazy on May 03, 2011, 11:13:44 pm ---..But we already know that there will be only 2 levels of professions (the third will be replaced by blueprints and special workbenches).
So yeah, planning a build for next session is totally impossible right now.

About the build itself: 7ST is far too much for a SG, it's 5, 4 if you plan to use only smg-like weapons. Educated is a waste of perk. And you should try to have an even number in agility. Fast shot is useless trait, like it won't affect your burst. You could pick up small frame and gain an extra special.
And if you want a real PvPer, seriously... It won't have charisma and won't be able to craft anything... Better to create a crafter alt and main PvP char.

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First point: is there any place I can read about the crafting changes? I saw a post in the BUILDS COMPILATION thread that listed out-dated changes to traits and perks but nothing else.

Second point: You're right, that 7 STR should be bumped, but you need 6 for Stonewall (do drugs let you qualify for perks?). The rest of that feedback isn't really helping me accomplish my goal, and is slanted for how to build a pure PvP character. I know a crafting character will never be a good PvPer, so I'll settle for mediocre. That's why I wanted feedback, to make it as good as possible given the constraint. Does no one PvP in TB? I've already done small fights in TB, and fast shot does work with single shot weapons, so I don't see a waste there.

General points: 7 agil is for BRoF. I would prefer 8 and can now have it with a 6 STR char. Some might find educated a waste, but for a mixed build like this I need all the skill points I can take. If one of those STR points went to INT, I could eliminate educated and replace it with... something. 3 CHA is minimum b/c this character will be trading, not a pure PvP hulk who doesn't need to buy/sell. The LK 6 suggestion is valid but I don't know how to make it work. Unless someone has a good mixed build to show me, I don't know where the points would come from.

From the feedback, it looks like this is the current idea:

6 / 6 / 10 / 3 / 6 / 8 / 1 : Fast Shot + Good Natured
Awareness / Educated / Stonewall / Lifegiver / BRoF / ActionBoy (2)
221 HP, 11 AP, 183% SG, 40 Dr & FA, 60 Science, 180 Repair and 88 Outdoor
Profs: Armorer (3), Small Guns (1)

jangling:
http://www.nitue.net/fcp/index.php?build=138

with 6 luck, 9 AP (can change 1x brd for action boy for 10ap)
needs nuka cola. (very easy to supply.)
2 x toughness. and 10 en x 2 lifegiver.

Can get armorer 3 with drugs, can trade with mentats.

there would be better builds for what you want, but i hope this helps.
also FA is not useful unless > 100 IMO (unless 10 luck).

can switch doctor to outdoorsman if you cant afford cars, but doctor is more useful for pvp.

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