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OSAMA BIN LADEN DEAD
Eternauta:
--- Quote from: Slaver Snipe on May 06, 2011, 05:28:24 am ---I showed the "rage" in my posts to show you exactly what kilgore meant about your posts darling.
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--- Quote from: slaver_stimpack on May 06, 2011, 07:57:15 am ---OSAMA PK'ed 3000 people on 9/11 and APK's hunted him down.
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--- Quote from: Sarakin on May 06, 2011, 01:47:32 pm ---Argentina cannot into space
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Golden comments.
Want me to get back on topic? I don't think Bin Laden's dead was something good, or bad. I didn't really care about that man, as he obviously was not Mother Theresa. What I can't stand is the USA being so proud of shooting an old man who was a criminal. In democracy, criminals get a trial, they get shot in dictatorships. The USA are far from defending democracy.
Also, I don't personally think Bin Laden was as much of a threat as an individual, so I don't see the point in celebrating his death (at lesat as a victory in a fight in the middle of a war) or thinking the war on terrorism (which is a lie anyway) is over.
Bin Laden's dead was in my opinion just to make Obama look like a hero in shining armor, but doesn't really add much to USA's victory in the war on terrorism, which, like I already said, is completely a lie, as these "acts of terrorism" are an expression against imperialism. Not the best kind of way to fight against imperialism? right, we agree on that, but USA is still imperialist.
Also, sorry to insist, but Al Qaida and the Islamics in general are not much of a threat to humankind as the United States is and has been for decades and decades.
White Eagle:
--- Quote from: CNN ---Report: Al-Qaida Confirms Osama bin Laden's Death
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so we are now 100% sure. Lol
Kilgore:
--- Quote from: Y0ssarian on May 06, 2011, 12:14:03 am ---Oh forgive me for insulting Poland. But to me more precise it is not I who plays the buffon but the many of writers who collaborated together to tell lies on poor Poland!. For shame! Off with their heads! ;D
With my sincere apologies I as I do not want to incur the wrath which is Poland! Take these broc flower and xander root. Together, they make healing powder.
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Obvious troll is obvious
Surf:
--- Quote from: Eternauta on May 06, 2011, 05:49:27 pm ---Golden comments.
Want me to get back on topic? I don't think Bin Laden's dead was something good, or bad. I didn't really care about that man, as he obviously was not Mother Theresa. What I can't stand is the USA being so proud of shooting an old man who was a criminal. In democracy, criminals get a trial, they get shot in dictatorships. The USA are far from defending democracy.
Also, I don't personally think Bin Laden was as much of a threat as an individual, so I don't see the point in celebrating his death (at lesat as a victory in a fight in the middle of a war) or thinking the war on terrorism (which is a lie anyway) is over.
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I wholeheartly agree with you, but you gotta see the flip side of the coin. Bin Laden was for many US citizens "the root of all evil", even if it sounds inane for most of us. USA never really experienced a real war in their own country ("just" Pearl Harbor and , with some abstractions, the 9/11) - while the rest of the world, especially here in europe, already had its fair share of tragedies in war and is sensitized for that kind of stuff. That's why you rarely see people celebrating on the streets here when some man got killed/dragged to the trail. The americans lack this part in their short history of the country - 9/11 caused a bigger collective shock in their minds than we can understand. No war in their country for them - fortunately ofcourse, I have to say, no one wishes another country a war. That's why I can partly understand why so many US citizens jump on the streets and celebrate, because the symbolic character behind this shock is now "gone". I don't think that most of them don't understand that he can be replaced by just another person to repeat the terror, it's just the symbolic nature.
I too feel rather disgusted by people celebrating another mans death, especially when they usually feel superior to other cultures where people do the same, f.e in islamic cultures etc. Ofcourse I often say "hurr, americans bad!11 ;P" in a humoristic way, because some stuff the people there do feels pretty alien to me or un-understandable. But as said - you always gotta see the flip side of the coin.
Eternauta:
Good point, I think what you said makes some sense but I'm not sure if "entirely". The USA, as you said, never had a shocking experience on their ground like Europe did in both World Wars, but there were USA troops fighting there and they were witnesses and, what might be even worse, protagonists of the agony and destruction Europe was going through (no matter whether they agreed on fighting or not).
I think saying "USA is evil" (the same way the talk about the root of Evil) is too simple and empty, but at the same time I can't understand this. Do their media have a heavy effect on them? could be (I can say some of that happens in my country) but I personally can't be sure. Have they leant nothing from those two experiences? Hard to believe, too.
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