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Alright, Come on; Fallout 3 and New Vegas aren't that bad.

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Surf:
I didn't stumble over that much pistoleer characters, maybe that's why.
As for the actual "Sci-Fi Western" - you probably got me wrong on that. I meant the feel of it is very close to what we now know as the "Wild West" - no laws, borderland, people shooting/robbing each other, etc. That's spot on the wild west theme and fallout had/has always a foot standing in it. You may also consider that New Vegas plays in Nevada, where people just tend to wear stuff like that (cowboy hats, etc), even in real life, while the original ones played in California, and (partly) Oregon, Nevada.

Eternauta:

--- Quote from: Surf on April 16, 2011, 09:34:45 pm ---As for the actual "Sci-Fi Western" - you probably got me wrong on that. I meant the feel of it is very close to what we now know as the "Wild West" - no laws, borderland, people shooting/robbing each other, etc. That's spot on the wild west theme and fallout had/has always a foot standing in it.

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Yes I think I got you wrong. I did understand you meant that but I thought you were saying that "feel" was also about wearing cowboy clothes.


--- Quote ---You may also consider that New Vegas plays in Nevada, where people just tend to wear stuff like that (cowboy hats, etc), even in real life, while the original ones played in California, and (partly) Oregon, Nevada.
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I really hope it's like you say, and that it's about different regions of the USA. Anyway NV feels like a disguise party: cowboys, Romans, Mongols, Elvis :S

Surf:
Yeah, I've never got the hang of the Legion, I always just kill them on sight for their silly attire and gibberish they talk. Even if Sawyer always defends them, I still think the incarnation like they are potrayed in New Vegas is just a huge and blatant fail. The same goes for the Khans - while their quests and backgroundstory is ok, disgusing like djengis khan with those helmets is just... duh.. Yes I know, even the FO1 Khans were supposed to look like that (look at early drafts for character concepts) but in New Vegas? Fail. The fact that all the human models and faces in the Gamebyro Engine look like shit doesn't help either.

As for the Kings, when I first read about them, I thought the same as like with the Legion. Ingame, they actually turned out to be an interesting faction, I liked their backgroundstory.

Badger:

--- Quote from: Surf on April 17, 2011, 09:20:47 am ---Yeah, I've never got the hang of the Legion, I always just kill them on sight for their silly attire and gibberish they talk.

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Yeah, the Legion were clearly Sawyer's baby, and nobody had the authority/balls to step in and point out just how uninspiring they were as a faction. Despite all the THERE ARE NO GOOD GUYS it's pretty clear the NCR were much better for everyone. If it's a choice between bureaucracy and wholesale slaughter, I'll choose bureaucracy.  Although I sided with House, if the man managed to survive nuclear war I think he has got his shit together. Plus I like blackjack.

I was expecting the Legion to be 'civilisation at any cost' - they will come in, butcher thousands, but life under their is actually an improvement on what your average loser experienced before they arrived (MUCH LIKE THE ROMANS). I didn't get a sense that Legion provided that at all, they just seemed to be conquering areas for the hell of it. I think Raul mentions how safe Arizona was, and Cass mentions how safe Legion caravans are, but you don't get a sense that the Legion have anything to offer. At all.

Michaelh139:

--- Quote from: Badger on April 17, 2011, 12:54:26 pm ----Snips
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Well, of course you wouldn't notice this considering the very area you play the game is under the Legions assault.  They're not going to have caravans and stuff around in their enemy's own territory are they?  When Romans fought they fought with full force at any cost, thats why it makes sense that you wouldn't see anything good from them as long as they were fighting where you happened to live.

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