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Chem resistant and Chem reliant
RavenousRat:
--- Quote from: Solar on April 04, 2011, 03:27:04 PM ---Chem reliant, you'll be able to play a drug addict without having a gimped char when not on drugs. I don't think it'll be useless to everyone.
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If they're druggies... they're already screwed without drugs, like lacking ST or -1 AP because of nuka or need +2 AP from jet or need cigs for 10th PE. Without drugs they won't functioning well already.
--- Quote from: Solar on April 04, 2011, 08:28:23 PM ---What's the problem with them?
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He wants to ignore -1 PE from weak healing powder to be able to use it on his own slaves.
Btw, I think that's nice suggestion to be able to drug your own mercs/slaves with any drugs, not only weak healing powder, but also pump with with jet, psycho and other stuff.
Edit:
Also, for example me, I have base 9 AP, with jet and nuka I have 12 AP.
Sometime I had 3 addicitions at the same time: jet+nuka+cig, I had 6 AP.
Without drugs I have 8 AP because of jet addiction. But I don't care if I'll have 6 AP or 8 AP or 9 AP, because if I don't have 12 AP I'm not going anywhere where I'll need to kill people, because why should I use my damned 8 AP build for 1 shot and then wait, when I can simply drink a bottle of nukacola, eat some jet, and do x2 shots, if I can't, I'm not going there, even if you'll give me immunity to jet addicition and I'll have always minimum 9 AP, still, I'll not go anywhere, because 9 < 12, and it's big difference. And now buffout builds who lacking 2 ST, meaning -40% to hit, do you really think he'll take this trait just to fight sometimes without that harmless buffout addiction that lasts only 1 real life hour, but SS' will heal only 50 HP, and stims will heal only 5-20 HP.
If this trait will have no penalty, just "Chem Resistant Suffer no addiction effect (no -1 Ag)" and nothing more, than you could pick this trait because you don't know what to pick else, and you don't want Bloody Mess.
But with "Healing chems (Stims/Powders) do half effect" it's like Bruiser trait now, more penalty than bonus.
Solar:
Well, the idea is that you either use it with Chem Res to have a char who uses a cocktail of drugs, is addicted to them all, but can pick and choose when to take which one - or a character who doesn't build around drugs, but still wants to use them now and again, so they can take whatever drug they like and don't pay the consequence.
We will see if it gets taken or not, all of these need testing before anything is decided about them.
RavenousRat:
--- Quote from: Solar on April 05, 2011, 12:38:04 AM ---or a character who doesn't build around drugs, but still wants to use them now and again, so they can take whatever drug they like and don't pay the consequence.
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1) Consequences? Addictions will be changed after wipe? If it'll stay as it is now, then there're no consequences except for Jet.
2) What price...? 1/2 HP from SS'/stims? It doesn't worth it. Carry x2 more stims, use x2 times more stims and spend x2 times more AP to use them isn't good pay off for "just to use drugs sometimes!" especially if you build isn't druggy and most of them will be useless for you, or useful, but again, there're no consequences, 1 hour of -1 AP? And it'll be ignored if you're taking this drug again, then just take a rest for 1 hour and there're no consequences! Make addictions more harmful, then may be this trait will be useful, because right now addictions are nothing.
Badger:
Make addictions more harmful and then the only people who'll use them are carefully crafted drug builds. Everyone else won't want to have their character fucked. I don't see the good in that. I'd rather an entire server full of sniffing, bleary eyed junkies.
Crazy:
--- Quote from: Badger on April 05, 2011, 07:15:00 PM ---Make addictions more harmful and then the only people who'll use them are carefully crafted drug builds. Everyone else won't want to have their character fucked. I don't see the good in that. I'd rather an entire server full of sniffing, bleary eyed junkies.
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Agreed. The solution is either a better advantage or a lesser disadvantage. Maybe negating/diminishing bad drugs effects?
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