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Author Topic: few question about traders/barter/caravans  (Read 1602 times)

maszrum

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few question about traders/barter/caravans
« on: April 07, 2011, 02:45:13 pm »

at the beginning i would like to notice - this is not another whine series topic, its only MY subjective opinion of things what i dont like in this season.. and what i would like to see in next one. i hope this will be more like "question and answer" topic to developers.. dont know how to write this with my poor knowledge of english language. i ll try do this in points.

Trading System
ok, everyone knows that - trading system definitely need some improvments.. its really hard to buy something useful, and that should not be main source of obtaining items?

- traders are fill of shit, this crappy weapons dont disappear after some time.
- item respawn time at traders is way to long (1day?) why its not 30-60 minutes when there is 150-300 players online.
- barter - another useless skill in fonline. players need this skill only for get more time for browsing all this shity stuff like mausers, 10mm pistols etc.
- more different traders* ? - its related to next point..

Caravans

- why not to add real caravan traders, like we had in fallout2? (trader + guards on encouter) that can be solution for worthless caps and another way to get some stuff like drugs, armors, weapons and ammo. we  have a lot of caps and we dont know how to spend this money.
- FARMING, ok finaly we back to old good concept of farming stuf form 'caravans', the problem is.. what to farm?
- to many spots for find some caravans, for example SF caravan you can find on 20-30? different zones - near sf, reno, ncr, junktown and even hub. long time ago on secound season that was really great when tehre was only few places to find sf caravan - why? becouse of fights in encouters with other groups of players!

and this is realated to another thing point

Turnbase

we all know, the good TB on 2238 is almost dont exist becouse of few problems ..like:
- finding other players is like pain in the ass, that should be much easier
- encouters are open only for few minutes and dont mention about 5minutes ? for discress call
- no possiblity of using doctor in tb + few more things

so, why encouters can be open for 30 minutes for example? i know sometimes becouse of tb traps a lot of players are traped for verylong time but comeoen, 2 days ago on requiem was the longest and probably most epic turnbase battle ever (over 20 hours)



ok end of part one
« Last Edit: April 07, 2011, 02:50:52 pm by maszrum »
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Re: few question about traders/barter/caravans
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2011, 03:03:57 pm »

20 hours? wtf?!  :o
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maszrum

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Re: few question about traders/barter/caravans
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2011, 03:09:52 pm »

20 hours? wtf?!  :o

yea that was really insane, people was coming back and coming back to this encouter becouse of cars ( on requiem parked cars are visable for everone form worldmap) and we was changing shifts, giving up wasnt the option, probably becouse of 200ca's on ther ground and tons of other stuff. when i woke up at morning, that encouter that was still open ;)
even there, turnbase need some improvments ;)
« Last Edit: April 07, 2011, 03:13:51 pm by maszrum »
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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2011, 03:24:17 pm »

If I remember correctly Solar reworks trading system and it will be implemented after wipe but I totally agree with you. Also crafting and trading shouldn't be the only way to obtain some goods like drugs. In current system you need full set of crafting alts, maybe you should give players a choice - craft, trade, farm or do some repeatable quests.
Best feature of FOnline: Requiem is ease to find other peoples in game. It definitely changes relations between players, no more running away or killing on sight every player you meet in town or in encounter. I am not suggesting you to change FO:2238 into Requiem but it is tested feature and in my opinion it is works perfectly.

Little off topic but here is some short video from this battle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn8FbHv76qc
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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2011, 03:40:16 pm »

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Best feature of FOnline: Requiem is ease to find other peoples in game. It definitely changes relations between players, no more running away or killing on sight every player you meet in town or in encounter

Thats why you are killed everytime when you meet someone in town/encouter ?
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« Reply #5 on: April 07, 2011, 04:03:47 pm »

It seems obvious to me to solve the problem of TB by creating sort of realtime-TB system, where everyone have 10 seconds to do things, simultaneously. When too large amount of people, divide it into groups by their reaction. Is there any point I dont see and that is making this system highly unpractical?
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« Reply #6 on: April 07, 2011, 04:06:58 pm »

Thats why you are killed everytime when you meet someone in town/encouter ?

I think yes because of lack of players encounters most peoples adopt such barbaric attitude. On Requiem it's much easier to find someone when status shows 100 players than on 2238 when status shows 300. When I was leveling my first char many peoples find me and I was killed twice. Most encountered peoples was friendly and wants to talk with me. If someone kills you, you have big chance to encounter him later and take your revenge. It's karma. On this server you have small chances to find someone so no one cares.
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« Reply #7 on: April 07, 2011, 04:31:17 pm »

I think yes because of lack of players encounters most peoples adopt such barbaric attitude. On Requiem it's much easier to find someone when status shows 100 players than on 2238 when status shows 300. When I was leveling my first char many peoples find me and I was killed twice. Most encountered peoples was friendly and wants to talk with me. If someone kills you, you have big chance to encounter him later and take your revenge. It's karma. On this server you have small chances to find someone so no one cares.

On Requiem, 90% of players kill you in random encouters, same with towns
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maszrum

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« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2011, 04:35:55 pm »

guys its not topic about requiem

ot: on requiem - there is more "antipk" then "pk", just join some side in conflict - everyone is using namecolorising
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