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how many fonline people believes in church
vedaras:
--- Quote from: Solar on April 11, 2011, 06:55:44 pm ---Let's agree on pre-renaissance then, if that makes you happy. Those dark dark days before Scientific Method.
Yes! Fantastic logic! Nothing can exist without something being there first ... so there must be God ... who existed before ... wait, what?
I know, there must have been a Super-God who created God. But wait - who created Super-God? Mega-God? Ultra-God?
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and here Chuck Norris comes in :D
cogliostro:
Here basically the defense from the counterpart of believers, about the existence of an entity such as a god, lies in the fact that there is no evidence of the non-existence of them, and they base the creation of all we know, in the possibility that entity exist without proves, only because there is no one able to tell them the reason of the non-existence of him and/or them. hmm. Interesting.
This is so simple to be viewed this side. There are many tales, myth and fantasy, used as a metaphor, and all people know about that to think it is not real, is because has been cataloged as unreal. The reason why the tale of the bible, which mixes history with subliminal fantasy to their readers, is not discarded from reality, has a motive to do with the matter it implies in peoples mind about what they want to believe, they want that “paradise” there described, they want love and the end of all wars, and obviously that is not the part why is this book taken so seriously. This book was used as one of legislation. So, you know what politics search on people. I have not to remind you. I think.
If you want to keep on believing on gods, even now there is able to study how storms, earthquakes or other event of nature is caused, is that you like tales so much, and don't want to see reality (And for example there is a scientific explanation why that lake in the bible book turned red, as blood). You cannot dream on human tales, even if it ruled your childhood. There is a point you must take them apart, open your mind and not solely answer what you don't know, with the same word, over, and over again.
LagMaster:
the natural calamities is the way mother nature testes and teaches us how to live longer and better in artificializing our lifes
now we are building super smart buildings that can easly wistand earthquakes on 8 degrades on Richter scale, vreom this "dysasters" cauzed by Nature, so we are learning as we fall
anyway, we can't know what was before the Big Bang and we do not know what hapenedd befor, but i belive there are some worlds that exists and we touched them with no reaction, or vice versa, the other dimensions(let me explain:
we are living in a world with 4 dimensions: space(3D) and time, but there are other dimensions or sets of dimensions that are quite like this one, but probably diferent
since we didn't explore those, we can't tell how are they like, but we know they exist
)
but about the big bang, i have saw a theory on Discovery, where the Big Bang was the result of Negative Force, so in one day it will come back on 1 point and then expand again.
Floodnik:
--- Quote from: Solar on April 11, 2011, 06:55:44 pm ---I know, there must have been a Super-God who created God. But wait - who created Super-God? Mega-God? Ultra-God?
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I believe God is the Almighty One, there is nothing more powerful than Him. If you want to believe in Super-God or something else, then do. My faith is (fine) as it is.
--- Quote from: cogliostro on April 11, 2011, 07:41:45 pm ---And for example there is a scientific explanation why that lake in the bible book turned red, as blood
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You can explain basicly every major miracle that occured back then - lake turning red, the sea being wide open etc.
The problem is not how they happened, but why they happened and why in that exact time.
It is like it was all planned from the beginning. Moses just found the suitable moment. But how did he know? Does it mean we are a part of some bigger plan?
You can explain the scientific reason for the sea going wide open - gravitational anomalies etc. I'm sure you can also explain the anomaly. But then go deeper and deeper... And you find out it was just a >coincidence< that the entire universe moved the way it helped Jews pass through.
Ganado:
--- Quote from: Solar on April 11, 2011, 06:55:44 pm ---Yes! Fantastic logic! Nothing can exist without something being there first ... so there must be God ... who existed before ... wait, what?
I know, there must have been a Super-God who created God. But wait - who created Super-God? Mega-God? Ultra-God?
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From a religious view point or a scientific view point, it doens't make any sense.
I mean, no matter how you look at it:
- If we both agree Big Bang is true, then what caused Big Bang? What created the matter to let whatever caused the Big Bang happen?
- And then what you said, about what created god. What created God? If a person says "God has been around for all time", then what created 4th Dimension? etc, etc.
Doesn't make sense either way - an infinite cycle, really.
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