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Slaver Snipe:
--- Quote from: Colombo on April 11, 2011, 10:20:00 am ---Mayack: yes, there are plenty of them, thermodynamic law eg.
You modern theories are quite consistent, IF there would be ghost, it would have to react with body somehow etc. it would mean mutch more new things, and that our contenporary knowledge is wrong. It could be, but because quite consistency in our theories and no strong prove that they are wrong (eg. no evidence for ghost etc.), this is evidence against ghost. Theory with spirits should explain our conteporary knowledge consistently with new spirits evidence. But hypothesis with spirits don't do that, they try to explain only spirits and try to relativize all our knowledge. Because no real scientist even think of them.
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Eh, if all that was in reference to a soul you should be careful about what language you use, a ghost and a soul are not necessarily interchangeable, also this is the same shit as "God exists", "No he doesn't there is no evidence to prove it", "There's no evidence to disprove it though!"
Solar:
A soul is as real as the sky.
In that there is no real "sky", but its a useful shorthand to explain something much more interesting.
Given that you can control moods and movement with chemical and electrical stimuli, there is obviously no need for medieval notions like "souls".
Colombo:
--- Quote from: Slaver Snipe on April 11, 2011, 03:33:55 pm ---Eh, if all that was in reference to a soul you should be careful about what language you use, a ghost and a soul are not necessarily interchangeable, also this is the same shit as "God exists", "No he doesn't there is no evidence to prove it", "There's no evidence to disprove it though!"
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Yeah, wrote about spirit and ghost have possesed my hands... but thats not important.
Yeah, this is shame shit. But God have been disproven many times! It depends on definition of God. God defined by bible was disproven. If you define God, it can be disproven. You can define him (it, whatever) as you like, loose enough, but you have to define it somehow.
Floodnik:
--- Quote from: Solar on April 11, 2011, 06:05:53 pm ---medieval notions like "souls".
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Now you are accusing Christians of being "medieval". Let me accuse you of ignorance.
@Colombo
Are you serious? How can you prove that something a physical person never touched, that isn't subjected to physical laws we know about, doesn't exist? There is no way to do that.
--- Quote ---God defined by bible was disproven.
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Nope.
--- Quote from: Slaver Snipe on April 11, 2011, 03:33:55 pm ---"God exists", "No he doesn't there is no evidence to prove it", "There's no evidence to disprove it though!"
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"God doesn't exist", "There is no evidence to prove it, God does exist", "There's no evidence to disprove that he doesn't though!"
Try thinking about it that way.
BTW. Actually, we could tell there is a proof that God exists. Because, since the universe is there, existing, moving on, it's logical for me there somewhere is that unknown force which started it all. Now I just need to keep looking for it(Him?). Find your own God, if Christianity is so wrong for you :)
Solar:
--- Quote ---Now you are accusing Christians of being "medieval". Let me accuse you of ignorance.
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Let's agree on pre-renaissance then, if that makes you happy. Those dark dark days before Scientific Method.
--- Quote ---BTW. Actually, we could tell there is a proof that God exists. Because, since the universe is there, existing, moving on, it's logical for me there somewhere is that unknown force which started it all. Now I just need to keep looking for it(Him?). Find your own God, if Christianity is so wrong for you
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Yes! Fantastic logic! Nothing can exist without something being there first ... so there must be God ... who existed before ... wait, what?
I know, there must have been a Super-God who created God. But wait - who created Super-God? Mega-God? Ultra-God?
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