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cogliostro:
I would dare to say noone need such kind of organization as the church, hiding information to people, way to manage the situation to their will. Then they are liars, "sinners" as their call. I have not to mention the atrocities commanded by these people, using their "god" as thy reason. If you believe in what church has made you to believe, then you support oppression, corruption... liberty of expression, and more. An example is the missing link of the human being, found many years ago, but has not came to spread that much, and a factor is the "church" intended to keep the flame on their believers. So yes, what a powerful organization, in do the bad thing.

Floodnik:
I do not believe in Church. I believe in God, in Jesus. Church is not the God.
But the primary purpose of Church was to help us, folks, meet God. That's why it was created.
It became corrupted though. I agree with you. But not fully. There are many good people out there. People who don't want power, money - they want to help. They want to spread the Word.
I mentioned John Paul II. Do you believe he was corrupted, that he became a pope just to lie, hide information, keep flame on us, believers? I don't. He was a good man. A great man.

I hope Church goes in the right direction.

solid snake:
God does exist. He's just an epic troll.
http://www.iheartchaos.com/post/2461450574/twenty-things-god-is-an-epic-troll

Solar:
There is as much evidence for God as the Tooth Fairy, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Exactly 0.

On the other hand there is plenty of evidence that Christian belief grew up from a small jewish cult and through amazing coincidence ended up polluting the world.

If not for another made up deity who was popular in rome at the time they were trying to sell Jebus to them, we would have very different made up nonsense to learn in school. (There's actually loads more Mithra/Jesus similarities than there are here:


--- Quote ---1) Hundreds of years before Jesus, according to the Mithraic religion, three Wise Men of Persia came to visit the baby savior-god Mithra, bring him gifts of gold, myrrh and frankincense.

2) Mithra was born on December 25 as told in the “Great Religions of the World”, page 330; “…it was the winter solstice celebrated by ancients as the birthday of Mithraism’s sun god”.

3) According to Mithraism, before Mithra died on a cross, he celebrated a “Last Supper with his twelve disciples, who represented the twelve signs of the zodiac.

4) After the death of Mithra, his body was laid to rest in a rock tomb.

5) Mithra had a celibate priesthood.

6) Mithra ascended into heaven during the spring (Passover) equinox (the time when the sun crosses the equator making night and day of equal length).



As you can now see, Christianity derived many of its essential elements from the ancient religion of Mithraism. Mithraism became intertwined with the cult of Jesus to form what is known today as “Christianity.” Although literary sources on this religion are sparse, an abundance of material evidence exists in the many Mithraic temples and artifacts that archaeologists have found scattered throughout the Roman Empire, from England in the north and west to Palestine in the south and east. The temples were usually built underground in caves, which are filled with an extremely elaborate iconography (illustrating by pictures, figures and images). There were many hundreds of Mithraic temples in the Roman Empire, the greatest concentrations have been found in the city of Rome itself.



There are tens of accounts of pagan gods of many different cultures who were said to have the same attributes as those that Christians claim Jesus had.


Trinity―Trinities were popular in pagan sects before Christianity was introduced to the world. Some of the more well known trinity gods included Mithra-Vohu Mana-Rashnu, Amen-Mut-Khonsu, and Osiris-Isis-Horus.

Virgin Birth―Among the pagan cultures that preceded Christianity, virgin birth stories abounded. The long list of pagan gods born of virgins includes: Romulus and Remus, Zoroaster, Buddha, Mithras, Chrishna, Osiris-Aion, Agdistis, Attis, Tammuz, Adonis, Korybas, Perseus, and Dionysus.

Disciples―In the following 'saviors' cases, a grouping of disciples was present, just as they were present in Jesus' story: Horus, Buddha, Chrishna, Dionysus, Mithra. Interestingly enough, in the case of Dionysus, his disciple Acoetes was a boatman, just as Jesus' disciple Peter. And just as Peter was freed from jail when the doors miraculously flew open, so was Dionysus' disciple Acoetes. In Budda's case, he, like Jesus, demanded that his disciples renounce all worldly possessions. Yet another instance of similarity is that the disciples of both Jesus and Buddha were said to have been arrested for preaching, as well as witnessed to have "walked on water."

Miracles―Among those 'saviors' who, like Jesus, performed countless miracles include: Horus, Chrishna, Buddha, Dionysus, Mithra, Osirus, and Adonis. Horus was said to have walked on water, just as Jesus did. In addition, Horus raised one man, El-Azarus, from the dead in front of countless witnesses. In the case of Buddha, it was told that he fed five hundred men with one loaf of bread, that he cured lepers, and that he caused the blind to see. Dionysus rescued a person from dying when the person was utterly desolate and placed them among the stars. And he gave food and drink, herbs and berries, to the starving people -- not to mention turning water into wine.

The Sun―Here is another common theory, quoted from S. Acharya's "The Origins of Christianity and the Quest for the Historical Jesus:" "The reason why all these pagan narratives are so similar to a "god-man" is that these stories were based on the movements of the sun through the heavens, an astrotheological development that can be found throughout the planet because the sun and the 12 zodiac signs can be observed around the globe.
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Or like your old testament? Note how an older Sumerian tale, Gilgamesh makes it into the bible with the much more boring Noah's ark skinned over the top.


Stories are quite fun. Repeating them as fact is not.

SIGISMUND:
People pray to god and belive in him when they are in difficulty.After they got their problems solved they don't even know who  is god.I personally don't really belive.So I think I'm an "atheist" is that the term?

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