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how many fonline people believes in church
kiki123:
--- Quote from: Surf on April 17, 2011, 09:28:52 am ---For a start, writing in proper english so you don't look like a complete idiot might help you for getting other people to take you serious.
Second, you accuse other people being "simple minded fucks" , but never really come up with actual arguments, except "lol u r wrong, because I say so.". If you want to keep on entertaining the people with posts like these, go on, though.
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Surf i dont need people to take me serious, again i say my english sucks but i speak 5 languages so i think im pretty good considering those facts, and of course i do not have proper arguments about these kind of subjects just fealings and proof from my life.... and im not acussing people of being simple minded fucks im saying they are... and if ur so dumb too that u think somebody can prove anything about spirutuality and god and what not then u are as low as them too, but then again i know you are young so i cannot say anything.
I am sorry if i got mad but this kind of ingorance towards our souls and lifes just pisses me off. I can respect people who are dumb and are primitive, but people who are acually smart as hell like most of u guys.... and still try to prove something with scinece and smart anserws buddy i wish i could see u on the streets once... i lived in a war country in yugoslavia from 90 to 99. ive seen alot of people that had nothing else to do but pray and hope for better and when some of u try to dissrespect those kids of things i wouldnt just call u simple minded fucks i would rip ur fuckin spine out if i saw u, simple as that.
Colombo:
--- Quote ---and still try to prove something with scinece and smart anserws buddy i wish i could see u on the streets once...
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That only reflect how stupid you are. What I write is not rhetoric of some kind, not from position of power, how you write. But from position of thinking. When you define "soul" and define "god", like bible or etc. and you could test it with science, you would get no results, something is wrong. Method of testing, science, or you hypothesis. This is not "smart asnwer", this is simple core of science. If you don't understand, you can't argue against it. You experience is nice, but you are arguing only that "you have experiences", not telling me which one. You are telling me, that you experienced those in "real life", but why is your life more real than mine?
And remember, I didn't said, that there is no god, no soul no etc. But that if we take some definition AND we can falsificate it with science, than science and faith isn't two distinct areas. So your whole point is again, invalid. Please read better. Maybe you have a lot of experiences, but if you try to insert them in false theories and so they would disprove science, thats not mistake of science, but only your, because you are insterting it in false thingies.
kiki123:
i think we understood each other wrong........ i never said u havent had a real life, but u deff had a calmer life then mine. i am 100% sure of that. Second i never said science is bullshit but scinece isnt able to prove u everything, but church cant either or anything esle. There is somethings we just are not ment to know, but if u claim to know everything then my freind u are very wrong... u allways try to find an anserw to everything and u stick by it 100% even tough again it is just someones proven theory which can be proven wroong in a other 100o years. thats what i tried to say and thats why im mad because u thkkn u know everything but u dont, neither do i neither does any scinetist or genius in this life of ours. Stop trying to prove something that u cannot prove. we can make assumptions but beng 100 % sure about anythhing is imposibble and no matter how smart u sound to me ur not.
Colombo:
No. If I am trying to be scientist, I have to admit few things...
1. I have to search for the answer to everything. Thats why I go to science, to enlarge knowledge of humanity. And because I am solely interested in many kinds knowledge.
2. I can't know answer to everything. Nor I will ever know. Nothing I will know will be 100% sure, as I wrote in post there. Everything I will know would be hypothesis or more likely theory.
3. But, this is best way to learn things. This is best way to get stable knowledge, not dependent on personal experience. No one have been able to disprove it.
It is because testing of hypothesis, creating experiment, that should disprove and falsify those hypothesis. Even that many other experiments should be done. That mean, when you create experiment and get data, which disprove this theory, and that experiment is of course repeatable, I would gladly change my knowledge, I would gladly say "This theory is wrong. We have been wrong." Thats holy grail of every scientist. Do you know, why this didn't happen? Why major theories aren't falsificated so often? This isn't because scientist try to hide their prooves and laugh to everyone, who have those. This is because there wasn't repeatable experiment, that disprove major theories. And those people, not realy scientist, more pseudoscientist, only media make so big bubble from those, who have those data have faked them. From bad method, to raw data (and filtering everything to get what they want). Sadly, this happen quite often. So real science is quite stable to create stable and right knowledge.
Many those, who came with "spirits" and "god" have said something, that could be testable. Were tested (it would be realy amazing, realy, if ghost and spirits and magick and many other amazing things were realy, but they probably aren't) and were disproven. Because those who came with those hypothesis weren't realy scientist and didn't realy understand what they were talking about. Man is created to be paranoid.
Sius:
--- Quote from: kiki123 on April 17, 2011, 02:26:50 pm ---*post*
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Dude, you rock!
And I mean it. If I was a president of the universe I would award you with all internets right away. But I'm having hard times deciding whenever you are just really dedicated troll or an actual person I've imagined based on your posts. If you are the 1st option, then: "reskept bro!". If not then:
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Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks.
Believe what you want to believe. This is open discussion not some religion board where everyone has to believe in what you believe and if not then get converted. And just btw what you said about something with ripping spines out of ignorants - well after finishing reading all your posts my first reaction was, that I felt sorry for you and thought that if ignorance should be punished by spine fatality, you would be the first one spineless. But then I realized you might be just another "how does magnets work?" guy. Anyway you rock!
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