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Critical hits
manero:
Why don't play BG? Because he suxx balls? So why he suxx balls? Maybe because is nerfed to max? Why he is nerfed to max? For balance? What balance if he is useless? Whoaa, there is no balance ingame? Yeah!
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And one more thing, i reported my conclusions about Hinkley to Solar via PM around 3-4 months ago. But didnt get answer. What a pity...
avv:
I've played the whole wipe with crit pistolero. I'd say crits aren't overpowered but too unpredictable. I've died multiple times because of wrong crit even though I shot first but also won fights because of undeserved luck. Crits require more reliability and less over the top effects.
Fighting especially bursters is pretty easy, you can take distance or hide behind npcs and their damage is reduced dramatically. I like it that players can affect their chances to win with ingame actions, but the same rule doesn't apply to crits. Only thing that can be done is to turn away to prevent eyecrits but it's a bit retarded and headcrits can cause awful damage and knockouts aswell.
--- Quote from: zuhardu on February 16, 2011, 09:06:21 AM ---I think the builds are fine as they are: open space - sniper wins (as it should), small quarters - bg wins. It's perfectly normal that in a open field a bg should lose vs a sniper.
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It's not that simple. Sniper can quickly shoot instant eyeshot against a big gunner even from point blank. But big gunner can't do much in longer range.
Hololasima:
--- Quote from: zuhardu on February 16, 2011, 09:06:21 AM ---I think the builds are fine as they are: open space - sniper wins (as it should), small quarters - bg wins.
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Yes, it should be as you said, BUT current situation is different.
Do you think that single two burst big gunner can destroy two small guns with 223 pistol in some small building ? If you think yes, so answer is no. He cant. Because bypasses or by weapon drop(crippled hands)
Just try some team test when you will have one BG against two small gunners with max crit. You'll see
Izual:
--- Quote from: manero on February 16, 2011, 09:48:19 AM ---Huh my 'ugly' reports...
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Your sight of BG/SG is a decent one, but you are discrediting it with making a humoristic first post of three lines. You posted a picture of critical hits logs in Hinkley, why didn't you put a similar thing in your first post, together with your arguments and opinions? What I am saying is that it'll be much easier to argue about the game, and to debate about needed changes if reports were made in a serious way, instead of posting the topic and then starting to debate. So yes, even if your point is valid and your posts serious and valuable, your first post is still, as you said, ugly.
@topic: I think both Youkai and Manero have valid points. The problem isn't that Snipers are too powerful, the problem is that you have no way to resist to these criticals. Improving Stonewall and removing Instant Kills might help to balance a bit. On another subject, I think big guns could welcome some damage boost, but also as a drawback a range nerf. It would be nonsense if minigunners were able to kill you at 35 hex, in a world where 50 hex is the max range. Big guns should be tremendous, yes, but at 20 hex max (except for some like LSW/M60, which are fine as they are). If I sum up, that's my ideas : improving criticals resistances (f.e. Stonewall), nerfing a bit miniguns range, improving all Big Guns' damage (And I would personally like the flamer's range to be upgraded).
Edit: Also I forgot, adding "scoped" perk to all sniping rifles, so that finally they stop being as deadly at one hex as they are at fifty.
_Youkai_:
--- Quote ---Do you think that single two burst big gunner can destroy two small guns with 223 pistol in some small building ? If you think yes, so answer is no. He cant. Because bypasses or by weapon drop(crippled hands)
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"Do you think that single two burst big gunner can destroy two small guns with 223 pistol in some small building ?"
Maybe???
Try the inverse now: Do you think single SG with 223 pistol can destroy two BGs with lsw/avenger im some small building?
Worst argument until now. :-\
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Also, considering that crippler char needs to cripple twice, as we know, every pvp char have skill Doctor.
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