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[avv]

Who needs another crappy T1 weapon, that no one except noob will be using? I'm against that suggestion.

This game doesn't cater only to top tier equipment hoarding powergamers.

[Crazy]

why dont 21 lvls use low tier guns?

Cause it's easy to be rich at 21 lvl, and when you are rich, you take best guns.

[JmanDong]

You don't always have to think about the level 21s. Think about new comers, they have a very low array of weapons at their disposal and it would be nice to see a few more Tier 1 or Tier 2 weapons.

[Crazy]

You don't always have to think about the level 21s. Think about new comers, they have a very low array of weapons at their disposal and it would be nice to see a few more Tier 1 or Tier 2 weapons.

Mmmh... Very few weapons?

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.44 Magnum (Speed Load)
.44 Magnum Revolver
10mm Pistol
10mm SMG
14mm Pistol
9mm Mauser
Assault Rifle
Assault Rifle (Exp. Mag.)
Boxing Gloves
Brass Knuckles
Cattle Prod
Club
Combat Knife
Combat Shotgun
Crowbar
Desert Eagle (Exp. Mag.)
Desert Eagle .44
Dynamite
FN FAL
FN FAL (Night Sight)
FN FAL HPFA
Flamer
Grenade (Frag)
H&K CAWS
Hunting Rifle
Improved Flamer
Knife
Laser Pistol
Laser Rifle
M3A1 "Grease Gun" SMG
M60
Magneto-Laser Pistol
Minigun
Molotov Cocktail
Needler Pistol
Old Shovel
Pipe Rifle
Plant Spike
Plasma Pistol
Plasma Pistol (Ext. Cap.)
Plated Boxing Gloves
Power Fist
Red Ryder BB Gun
Ripper
Rock
Rocket Launcher
Sawed-Off Shotgun
Scoped Hunting Rifle
Sharpened Pole
Sharpened Spear
Shiv
Shotgun
Shovel
Sledgehammer
Spear
Special Boxer Weapon
Spiked Knuckles
 Super Cattle Prod
Super Sledge
Switchblade
Throwing Knife
Tommy Gun



[Michaelh139]

Mmmh... Very few weapons?

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.44 Magnum (Speed Load)
.44 Magnum Revolver
10mm Pistol
10mm SMG
14mm Pistol
9mm Mauser
Assault Rifle
Assault Rifle (Exp. Mag.)
Boxing Gloves
Brass Knuckles
Cattle Prod
Club
Combat Knife
Combat Shotgun
Crowbar
Desert Eagle (Exp. Mag.)
Desert Eagle .44
Dynamite
FN FAL
FN FAL (Night Sight)
FN FAL HPFA
Flamer
Grenade (Frag)
H&K CAWS
Hunting Rifle
Improved Flamer
Knife
Laser Pistol
Laser Rifle
M3A1 "Grease Gun" SMG
M60
Magneto-Laser Pistol
Minigun
Molotov Cocktail
Needler Pistol
Old Shovel
Pipe Rifle
Plant Spike
Plasma Pistol
Plasma Pistol (Ext. Cap.)
Plated Boxing Gloves
Power Fist
Red Ryder BB Gun
Ripper
Rock
Rocket Launcher
Sawed-Off Shotgun
Scoped Hunting Rifle
Sharpened Pole
Sharpened Spear
Shiv
Shotgun
Shovel
Sledgehammer
Spear
Special Boxer Weapon
Spiked Knuckles
 Super Cattle Prod
Super Sledge
Switchblade
Throwing Knife
Tommy Gun



A good bit of those aren't available but yeah its still quite a bit of weapons compared to tier 3.

[Crazy]

What weapons I given aren't available?


Ok, now Tier 3:

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Avenger Minigun
Grenade (Plasma)
HK P90c
Laser Rifle (Ext. Cap.)
Light Support Weapon
PPK12 Gauss Pistol
Pancor Jackhammer
Plasma Rifle
Sniper Rifle

[Michaelh139]

Boxing gloves, shiv, Plated boxing gloves, special boxer weapon.  

p.s. was the upgraded versions of fn fal removed yet?

[JmanDong]

Mmmh... Very few weapons?

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.44 Magnum (Speed Load)
.44 Magnum Revolver
10mm Pistol
10mm SMG
14mm Pistol
9mm Mauser
Assault Rifle
Assault Rifle (Exp. Mag.)
Boxing Gloves
Brass Knuckles
Cattle Prod
Club
Combat Knife
Combat Shotgun
Crowbar
Desert Eagle (Exp. Mag.)
Desert Eagle .44
Dynamite
FN FAL
FN FAL (Night Sight)
FN FAL HPFA
Flamer
Grenade (Frag)
H&K CAWS
Hunting Rifle
Improved Flamer
Knife
Laser Pistol
Laser Rifle
M3A1 "Grease Gun" SMG
M60
Magneto-Laser Pistol
Minigun
Molotov Cocktail
Needler Pistol
Old Shovel
Pipe Rifle
Plant Spike
Plasma Pistol
Plasma Pistol (Ext. Cap.)
Plated Boxing Gloves
Power Fist
Red Ryder BB Gun
Ripper
Rock
Rocket Launcher
Sawed-Off Shotgun
Scoped Hunting Rifle
Sharpened Pole
Sharpened Spear
Shiv
Shotgun
Shovel
Sledgehammer
Spear
Special Boxer Weapon
Spiked Knuckles
 Super Cattle Prod
Super Sledge
Switchblade
Throwing Knife
Tommy Gun



You didn't pay much attention to what I said. I mentioned new comers who don't have much money for the majority of those weapons. When is the last time you saw a level 2-3 running around with an FN FAL or most of those weapons who have no help at all from anyone else.

[Crazy]

Even the worst noob can get without much difficulty 1/4 of the list, if he learn how to craft he get another 1/4, and after a week he have 3/4 or even all available.

[falloutdude]

Even the worst noob can get without much difficulty 1/4 of the list, if he learn how to craft he get another 1/4, and after a week he have 3/4 or even all available.

you would think but i know help atleast 5 noobs a week get there tent up and they have been playing for atleast and week and only guns they have been using are 10mm and shotty i mean we really do need more guns that list you have may seem big to you but its really quite short compared to how many weapons we should have. i get yeah we want it to be falloutish but i mean really people say we will be in beta for forever but if we do little things like this add more weapons make it a little more noob friendly but not so noob friendly its stuiped we could be out of beta in no time and have a real mmorpg in no time at all.

[Ulrek]

I would have to agree with that.

Really the only weapons newbies use are 10mm pistols. SMGs, and shotguns.

But, the point of what i'm suggesting. is to add a bit of adventure to FOnline. and by adding new areas. more "dungeon" type areas could be added. without reworking existing areas. since there is only so much space.

It doesn't have to make people want to stay forever. but giving a quest for the option to craft something. or special perks, or as part of a quest to join a faction could at least add some PvE play, that is more fun if you have a group. since doing quests has been the core of most multiplayer RPGs.

-Ulrek-