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Rascal

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Re: Bozar discussion
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2011, 11:23:48 am »

is it even possible to obtain bozar in this wipe ?


i'm looking 4 one :F
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Re: Bozar discussion
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2011, 11:50:18 am »

SG Bursters are very good now, p90 is far too powerful.

p90 is not too powerful, big guns just suxx. p90 is ok.
Re: Bozar discussion
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2011, 05:57:13 pm »

p90 is not too powerful, big guns just suxx. p90 is ok.
Bah, it is. It just owns.
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Re: Bozar discussion
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2011, 06:14:34 pm »

p90c is still significantly less powerful than something like the Avenger and with less range.
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Re: Bozar discussion
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2011, 06:19:13 pm »

p90c is still significantly less powerful than something like the Avenger and with less range.

I wish to see Avengers in Hinkley (dreaming)
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Lordus

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Re: Bozar discussion
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2011, 07:26:57 pm »

 {P90 and P90 build is very competitive combination. Sometimes (best build, best player) it could be dominating over big gunners.} = In HINKLEY

 In every normal TC scenario, there is a very big disadvantage against other builds, even big gunners, because of lack of range. Also because of not only supermutants spawn in every short range city (Redding, BH, part of Den), P90 is not very popular too.

 P90 is also quite rare to be equiped as a secondary burst weapon for snipers, so from my point of view i see 3 current purposes for this weapon: Hinkley, leveling (if you have enough ammo), suicide PK burster in guarded cities (if you have someone else who will loot you).


 Back to Bozar (rare weapons).

 I think that concept of rare items like Gauss pistol, Gatling laser, cookies, ... is good way how to make this game more interesting, because hunt for this stuff, that could very significantly help one side in TC is also very entertaining.

 So i like aproach of obtaining those items in the game, but it has to be very limited so those items will be still rare, not usual (or at least ammo fot those items). So even Bozar could be introduced in the game, but my personal conditions:

 a) limited resource of weapon (maybe same way like gauss pistols)
 b) big det. by every shot (because the same ammo as sniper rifle, we cant reduce using of this weapon in game by ammo)
 c) the way how this weapon will introduce the economy circle should start outside the huge gangs (PvP), so i.e. only individuals outside the gang should have biggest possibility how to find that weapon (or weapon part), so the relationship among gangs and "basic" wastelanders would be more important (so maybe PK gangs would have at least one disadvantage against PKs)...
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Re: Bozar discussion
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2011, 09:55:36 pm »

p90c is still significantly less powerful than something like the Avenger and with less range.
Hehe, a 10 Endurance build(HUGE HP) without drugs can do 3 p90 bursts, when if you took 10 EN build with a biggunner, you can do only 1 burst(if you dont sacrifice something very important to get that second burst). So, now do the calculations again, but don't forget to multiply the p90 damage 3 times ;) Oh, and add some critical chance.
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Lordus

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Re: Bozar discussion
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2011, 10:52:00 pm »

Hehe, a 10 Endurance build(HUGE HP) without drugs can do 3 p90 bursts, when if you took 10 EN build with a biggunner, you can do only 1 burst(if you dont sacrifice something very important to get that second burst). So, now do the calculations again, but don't forget to multiply the p90 damage 3 times ;) Oh, and add some critical chance.

 Yeah, and now wake up from Hinkley dream and try to use this weapon in any TC city.. you will fail... Proof? Look how many players use P90 as their primary weapon in those locations. I bet no one sane..
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Re: Bozar discussion
« Reply #23 on: January 02, 2011, 12:01:42 am »

A Bozar is a useless rarity, stowed away in base locker.

I mean, you need a extra character to handle it! Who in the sane mind would put up BG skill with high Luck and even bring it in combat?
BG builds are bursters anyway and you don't need no Luck for rocketing your foe, only 7 Strength.

Wrong.
In previous session, there were few players that used Bozar in town control battles, using dedicated bg sniper character.

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Re: Bozar discussion
« Reply #24 on: January 02, 2011, 12:58:24 am »

p90 is only comeplete rapeage (yeah a tier above ownage) when in small fights, 4 vs 4 small, in big fight you dont have time to let off so many shots or die.
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Re: Bozar discussion
« Reply #25 on: January 02, 2011, 01:03:55 am »

Its useless on TC or other shit like this, too short range. For small arenas like pit or yesterday's event, sure, it rox. But its balanced.

Btw, micky:



P90 > your advanced power armor!
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Re: Bozar discussion
« Reply #26 on: January 02, 2011, 08:41:23 am »

Bozar is a lot worse than a Gauss pistol, the only advantage is the ammo (read the first post in this discussion) , I havn't seen one since the wipe, there is no common sense.
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