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ChikChik:

--- Quote from: Nyarla on December 04, 2010, 03:40:28 AM ---i don't think the main purpose of this suggestion is to make players "learn" how to play. it is to make newbies stay in game long enough to see how fun this game can actually be. as the OP stated, many players leave the game for good, just a few hours after they start playing. not because it is very difficult to learn how to mine or where to find stuff. they generally leave after encountering some pks in a row, which makes them think all this game offers is to stay in guarded towns and shovel brahmin shit all day, or to be killed by a random dude and lose everything that took you hours to gain... this way new players could enjoy their first hours in a safe place where they can do more than shovelling brahmin shit, they can learn the game mechanics better, make some friends and maybe even form gangs before they leave the starting zones. and finally take their first steps into the wasteland with about 70 hp which will make their lives in the wastes a little more bearable.
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Yeah man! You totaly got my idea!

--- Quote ---Ok, this is more convincing. However, do no ask Devs to work on this, they got other stuff to do. Instead, APK gangs like the one I am in should care about this kind of things, and I can say that at least my gang cares about this as much as it can.

this is not aproblem that should be fixed by devs while gangscontinue with senseless PvP and TC. The should be more projects like Modoc Militia, BH, etc...
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More projects like Modoc Militia, BH, and etc. running by who ? You probably know, that EVEN that kind of powerfull gang as The Rogues, cant keep BH safe everytime, and by the way, main goal of BH project is not about to make training camp for newbies. Heh, iam not forcing devs to implement it, this is still suggestion, and its still open for discussion.

aguuux:
Maybe we players can do this in some place like ncr army and help others (who want to help others  :P)

ChikChik:

--- Quote from: aguuux on December 04, 2010, 01:50:57 PM ---Maybe we players can do this in some place like ncr army and help others (who want to help others  :P)

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You know well that not much people wants to help new players, and only 50% of them will help them for real, not just chit chat. This is not quite fun to escort and guard newbie from PKs, till he will get his 6th level (at least). So thats why, this is work for NPC, in guarded zones.

aguuux:
i dont say to be like a guard of him i say that maybe we can give him a gun and help him pass their first levels

Eternauta:

--- Quote from: ChikChik on December 04, 2010, 11:44:36 AM ---More projects like Modoc Militia, BH, and etc. running by who ? You probably know, that EVEN that kind of powerfull gang as The Rogues, cant keep BH safe everytime, and by the way, main goal of BH project is not about to make training camp for newbies. Heh, iam not forcing devs to implement it, this is still suggestion, and its still open for discussion.

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Yeah, they can't keep those places safe at all times, so what? It doesn't mean they can help newbies. Do you know what that really means? It means that they can help newbies, but it's just not totally easy. And let me mention something you said:


--- Quote from: ChikChik on December 04, 2010, 02:33:21 PM ---This is not quite fun to escort and guard newbie from PKs, till he will get his 6th level (at least). So thats why, this is work for NPC, in guarded zones.

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Some people might not find it fun, cause it's not easy. Now you say "This IS NOT quite fun..." so you think that.

Know what it means?

Means you don't care shit about newbies so you want Devs to spend time and effort on that. Well there are some people who, unlike you, want to help newbies, and would be glad to do projects aimed for that. So please, don't try to ruin that for us just because you are lazy and want everything to be done by Devs.

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