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StuntCat:

--- Quote from: avv on December 01, 2010, 11:03:35 AM ---We can't die permanently so we always survive.

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you can "choose" stop playing, and put a bullet on your game's head (i mean ~deleteself and uninstall and all that).... that's like death

"choose"

Solar:
Well, water would just be another "upkeep", its not really a goal. - I'm a fan of hardcore mode, so its not that I don't like the idea. - A goal in that area would more be to control a reservoir, or water caravan, or something like that.

A goal would be more like: Become the highest rank in the BoS (or any other faction) or capture and control X for BoS (or any other faction).

avv:

--- Quote from: Solar on December 01, 2010, 01:21:16 PM ---Well, water would just be another "upkeep", its not really a goal. - I'm a fan of hardcore mode, so its not that I don't like the idea. - A goal in that area would more be to control a reservoir, or water caravan, or something like that.
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Another upkeep? More like first. But yeah it wouldn't be the actual goal, the goal would be how to get that water which could exactly be about having access to a water pump somehow. If there was at least one thing players had to do, there would be less time for foolish activity like griefing in towns or undetermined goofing around. Gotta keep the players at their toes.   


--- Quote ---A goal would be more like: Become the highest rank in the BoS (or any other faction) or capture and control X for BoS (or any other faction).
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Yes this is also a goal. However the problem here is that players don't have to do this. There's no "or else..." consequence like there is if you don't have access to water. So it gives an option for griefing/loitering and activity that has nothing to do with fallout. 

OskaRus:
I dont like that vision of mandatory stuff. We dont need implicitly set goals. Everyone can set goals for himself. Like making a tent, buying a base or car, shooting 1000 bluesuits. There are lots of thing which you can strife for ad which brings u some profit and makes playing in wasteland more comfortable.

Even though more ingame content and features are always welcomed. :-)

Solar:

--- Quote ---Another upkeep? More like first. But yeah it wouldn't be the actual goal, the goal would be how to get that water which could exactly be about having access to a water pump somehow. If there was at least one thing players had to do, there would be less time for foolish activity like griefing in towns or undetermined goofing around. Gotta keep the players at their toes.   
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Yes. Guns, Ammo, Armour.

Having a goal which is to secure water supply is the same thing as fighting to ensure your supply of those too (which you will have to after the next wipe)


--- Quote ---Yes this is also a goal. However the problem here is that players don't have to do this. There's no "or else..." consequence like there is if you don't have access to water. So it gives an option for griefing/loitering and activity that has nothing to do with fallout. 
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Goals aren't what people have to do, those are requirements. Goals are what people want to achieve.

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