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Floodnik:

--- Quote ---try to calculate what is the maximum skill needed for the most difficult situation. I think its about 230 sneak.
more then that number would be a waste.
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Wtf are you talking about lol?
Having more sneak is always better...
Even 300 + ghost sucks now when devs nerfed sneak drastically and Stealth Boy wasn't implemented correctly or not implemented at all
--- Quote ---    * Front: -135%.
    * Front-sides: -95%.
    * Back-sides: -55%.
    * Back: -15%.
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^ Fail... There is even penalty on back? What the fuck?


--- Quote ---this is more off an english doubt, does this mean u get -1% of sneak per kilo?
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That's what she said...


--- Quote ---20+ 6*3 - 300 (recomended) /6 = -37
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Where did you learn maths? I calculated -12.
Also, you forgot about bonuses and penalties:
20+6*3-(300+bonus-penalty)/6 =
in example, for front, no ghost perk, no occluders, no stealth boy, no weight, no armor, no motion sensor for your enemy:
 38-(300-135)/6 = 38-27,5 = 10,5
So you are going to be seen from 10 or 11 hex(probably 11) by your enemy.

Cocain:

--- Quote from: Floodnik on November 19, 2010, 03:11:55 pm ---Wtf are you talking about lol?
Having more sneak is always better...
Even 300 + ghost sucks now when devs nerfed sneak drastically and Stealth Boy wasn't implemented correctly or not implemented at all ^ Fail... There is even penalty on back? What the fuck?
That's what she said...
Where did you learn maths? I calculated -12.
Also, you forgot about bonuses and penalties:
20+6*3-(300+bonus-penalty)/6 =
in example, for front, no ghost perk, no occluders, no stealth boy, no weight, no armor, no motion sensor for your enemy:
 38-(300-135)/6 = 38-27,5 = 10,5
So you are going to be seen from 10 or 11 hex(probably 11) by your enemy.

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well one of us is doin the math wrong...

Floodnik:
I even checked on my epic Casio calculator with natural display and that's it.

And let's do it step by step:
20 + 6 * 3 - 300 / 6
6*3 = 18
300/6 = 50
20 + 18 - 50 = 38 - 50 = -12

Now tell me, who's doing the math wrong?

BTW. Tell me also, what does 2 + 2 * 2 equal?

Cocain:

--- Quote from: Floodnik on November 19, 2010, 09:12:43 pm ---I even checked on my epic Casio calculator with natural display and that's it.

And let's do it step by step:
6*3 = 18
300/6 = 50
20 + 18 - 50 = 38 - 50 = -12

Now tell me, who's doing the math wrong?

BTW. Tell me also, what does 2 + 2 * 2 equal?

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should the formula be only 20 + 6 * 3 - 300 / 6? at leats thats what it is on wiki

Floodnik:
God, help me...


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What's on wiki?

--- Quote ---20 + opponent's Perception * 3 - previously calculated skill / 6
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PREVIOUSLY CALCULATED SKILL. And it was explained on wiki how to calculate it:

--- Quote ---Bonuses

    * Ghost perk: +30% (can increase skill above 300%).
    * Occluders: Standing behind scenery objects like barrels, tables (up to 2 hexes from them) gives you +50% bonus.
    * Having active Stealth Boy in one of active slots gives +60% to the Sneak skill.

Penalties

    * Weight: -1% per 1 kg of the total weight of items you carry.
    * Armor:
          o Leather Armor and Leather Armor Mark II: -25%
          o All metal armors and combat armors: -50%
          o Powered armors (PA, APA, etc.): Sneak is disabled.

Against an opponent

    * Direction - direction of the opponent has big impact, basically, the area around opponent is divided into four parts, and each part modifies your sneak skill value as follows:
          o Front: -135%.
          o Front-sides: -95%.
          o Back-sides: -55%.
          o Back: -15%.
    * If your opponent has active motion sensor in an active slot, he will have +2 Perception for the purpose of sneak detection (not capped at 10).
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Are we looking at the same wikis?

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