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Dungeons, Instances and many other ideas...
Kirkor:
--- Quote from: runboy93 on October 25, 2010, 07:52:07 PM ---Maybe we should leave this suggestion for shadows.. we are in wasteland not in The Sims game :(
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No, no. This isn't another topic "Eat something and farm food or suffer".
Food would give you really small bonuses. And they wouldnt stack. So you can make food that gives you temporary +10 to max hp. Or higher healing rate. Or food that just heals you a little (like fruits). You know, something unnecessary.
PS.
I wonder why some of people are agains faster travel speed? I think faster speed would be good, if it wasn't TOO fast.
I remember times, when travel speed was a little faster. It wasn't so pain-in'the-a**. And cars were still useful. Cars were faster, they could transport more stuff etc.
Anyway, thanks for answers :)
John Ryder:
Cars were never useful before this wipe. Because you had to have: 1. a car 2. shitload of outdoorsman skill to don't lose it in first encounter. Also faster moving speed on WM is unrealistic. It should be even slower and everyone should own a car. Will you go by foot from NCR to Boneyard when you would have a car? Ever watched Mad Max? Everyone fought over fuel for cars because of how transport was important.
I think cars should be made cheaper, available to everyone. Also parking lots should be created in safe towns so you can park your car there without fear of it being stolen.
OskaRus:
--- Quote from: John Ryder on October 25, 2010, 08:49:06 PM ---Cars were never useful before this wipe. Because you had to have: 1. a car 2. shitload of outdoorsman skill to don't lose it in first encounter. Also faster moving speed on WM is unrealistic. It should be even slower and everyone should own a car. Will you go by foot from NCR to Boneyard when you would have a car? Ever watched Mad Max? Everyone fought over fuel for cars because of how transport was important.
I think cars should be made cheaper, available to everyone. Also parking lots should be created in safe towns so you can park your car there without fear of it being stolen.
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I agree. Cheaper cars and parking lots would really make cars widely used and walking on foot only from respawn. ;-)
Kirkor:
--- Quote from: John Ryder on October 25, 2010, 08:49:06 PM --- Also faster moving speed on WM is unrealistic.
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It's still unrealistic. If you want to make it realistic, you would have to wait few days before reaching another city. So imo you missed here.
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But:
1) It isn't Mad Max universe, where everyone got cars. It's Fallout, where cars usually are not used. In FO1 there were only "steam tanks" mentioned. They were used by muties to invade Necro. In FO2 car was unique and only one of its kind.
2) It's game. Yes, games should be as much realistic as possible, BUT priority of a game is FUN. Slow moving is not fun. Specially for newcomers, who die ALOT and can't even dream about getting a car. They also doesn't have much Outdoorsman skill.
3) Nobody used cars before wipe, coz they were expensive and easy to loose.
4) Not everybody have high Outdoorsman. And with 'cars-for-everyone' this skill will be just useless.
5) Car should be LUXURY. Especially in post-apo world. Good car was luxury like 30-40 yrs ago. So same here...
6) Car give you nice bonuses: Car trunk, much faster traveling, taking more friends with you, less encounters.
7) Finally, whats the point of this "car for all"? It will just make game... the same as it would be with 15% faster traveling. Cheap cars for everyone would make traveling even easier, faster and purely stupid (its my opinion). Everyone would have car, so they would travel fast, it would make Outdoorsman skill useless and its just weird.
And I was talking to speed travel a little. Like 10-15% faster.
John Ryder:
--- Quote from: Kirkor on October 27, 2010, 02:08:19 PM ---It's still unrealistic. If you want to make it realistic, you would have to wait few days before reaching another city. So imo you missed here.
But:
1) It isn't Mad Max universe, where everyone got cars. It's Fallout, where cars usually are not used. In FO1 there were only "steam tanks" mentioned. They were used by muties to invade Necro. In FO2 car was unique and only one of its kind.
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You deny your own points. Would you go on foot when you could use a car? The point is to make cars more available, there is even a bike graphic in SDK.
--- Quote from: Kirkor on October 27, 2010, 02:08:19 PM ---2) It's game. Yes, games should be as much realistic as possible, BUT priority of a game is FUN. Slow moving is not fun. Specially for newcomers, who die ALOT and can't even dream about getting a car. They also doesn't have much Outdoorsman skill.
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Dying and losing everything isn't fun too. But should that be changed? No.
--- Quote from: Kirkor on October 27, 2010, 02:08:19 PM ---3) Nobody used cars before wipe, coz they were expensive and easy to loose.
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--- Quote from: Kirkor on October 25, 2010, 08:28:37 PM ---I remember times, when travel speed was a little faster. It wasn't so pain-in'the-a**. And cars were still useful. Cars were faster, they could transport more stuff etc.
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So? What's the final verdict?
--- Quote from: Kirkor on October 25, 2010, 08:28:37 PM ---4) Not everybody have high Outdoorsman. And with 'cars-for-everyone' this skill will be just useless.
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You know what's useless? Gambling and speech. But you don't complain? Anyway I like it "useless" more than a "must" that ruins builds.
--- Quote from: Kirkor on October 25, 2010, 08:28:37 PM ---5) Car should be LUXURY. Especially in post-apo world. Good car was luxury like 30-40 yrs ago. So same here...
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But you just said that fun is more important than realism. And I like Mad Max image more. Also consider we use high tech weapons so cars made from junk are not okay?
--- Quote from: Kirkor on October 25, 2010, 08:28:37 PM ---6) Car give you nice bonuses: Car trunk, much faster traveling, taking more friends with you, less encounters.
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Mercs/Slaves/Brahmins are living storages with no carry weight limit, why would anyone use car's trunk when he can put a brahmin on a seat in a car? To take someone with a car you still need charisma so I don't know what do you mean.
--- Quote from: Kirkor on October 25, 2010, 08:28:37 PM ---7) Finally, whats the point of this "car for all"? It will just make game... the same as it would be with 15% faster traveling. Cheap cars for everyone would make traveling even easier, faster and purely stupid (its my opinion). Everyone would have car, so they would travel fast, it would make Outdoorsman skill useless and its just weird.
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Just face it: you never had a car, nor money for any and you complain because you don't know how much cars are fun. :)
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