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Return timeouts for worldmap encounters

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avv:

--- Quote from: John Ryder on October 22, 2010, 03:18:24 PM ---Forcing everyone to be a crafter or to get a crafter alt is ok, but letting them loot encounters is not. Yes, that makes a lot of sense. I thought that Fo2 was a game of many choices?

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Cashflow from encounters is tremendously higher than from crafting. It isn't even risky bussiness if you use cheap equipment.

John Ryder:
So what? Why do you want to slow down anything? After first month after wipe it will look the same as before it, you may slow it down to 2 months but what's the point? Encounters are a chance to smaller gangs to actually get a base, cars, mercs and shit. Cash is not that high - big gangs that take part in TC have MILLIONS of caps in banks - that, is high. Slow it down! Put a cooldown on it! Jesus, this game has so many useless cooldowns and you want to add more. WHAT'S THE POINT? See how crafting is now useful? Nobody gives a fuck about it because no one normal will spend an hour getting materials for BA that can be lost in seconds. Even if you finally craft the BA you wanted you have to wait AGAIN for crafting cooldown. Cooldowns, cooldowns everywhere.

But who am I talking to? To a guy that wanted to add a cooldown on aiming a weapon. ::)

avv:

--- Quote from: John Ryder on October 22, 2010, 03:32:17 PM ---So what? Why do you want to slow down anything? After first month after wipe it will look the same as before it, you may slow it down to 2 months but what's the point? Encounters are a chance to smaller gangs to actually get a base, cars, mercs and shit. Cash is not that high - big gangs that take part in TC have MILLIONS of caps in banks - that, is high. Slow it down! Put a cooldown on it! Jesus, this game has so many useless cooldowns and you want to add more. WHAT'S THE POINT? See how crafting is now useful? Nobody gives a fuck about it because no one normal will spend an hour getting materials for BA that can be lost in seconds. Even if you finally craft the BA you wanted you have to wait AGAIN for crafting cooldown. Cooldowns, cooldowns everywhere.
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I never said that encounters need cooldowns. I didn't even suggest anything yet. I only said that encounters are way more effective way to get rich than crafting. If this is the case, then there's unbalance between crafting and farming.


--- Quote from: John Ryder on October 22, 2010, 03:32:17 PM ---But who am I talking to? To a guy that wanted to add a cooldown on aiming a weapon. ::)
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I never said that either. I was for an idea where shooting would be done in reverse order (first regenerate aps, then shoot), so your vague attempt to somehow reduce my credibility here failed.

John Ryder:

--- Quote from: avv on October 22, 2010, 03:53:33 PM ---I never said that encounters need cooldowns. I didn't even suggest anything yet. I only said that encounters are way more effective way to get rich than crafting. If this is the case, then there's unbalance between crafting and farming.
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Then it's problem with crafting not farming.

--- Quote from: avv on October 22, 2010, 03:53:33 PM ---I never said that either. I was for an idea where shooting would be done in reverse order (first regenerate aps, then shoot), so your vague attempt to somehow reduce my credibility here failed.

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You can call it however you want but it was a cooldown. First wait then shoot. Cooldown, timeout whatever. :)

avv:

--- Quote from: John Ryder on October 22, 2010, 04:12:42 PM ---Then it's problem with crafting not farming
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I guess you can put it that way aswell. But crafting is actually balanced and the ammount of items produced per time unit is calculated. Only real problem with crafting is that it's not fun. Even if cooldowns were removed crafting wouldn't be any funnier. Then it would be just running from place to place without cooldowns. We used to have that a time ago. You could mine 300 ores and craft billion metal armors if you had a brahmin with you, incredibly boring, finger-straining and repetive.


--- Quote from: John Ryder on October 22, 2010, 04:12:42 PM ---First wait then shoot. Cooldown, timeout whatever. :)

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You have to wait after first shot anyway. Besides, that idea got more yes votes than negatives. But overall it doesn't even have anything to do with this issue here. If you want to discuss it, by all means resurrect the old thread.

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